| Author | Message | ||
     Cereal |
Has anyone Helicoiled their primary cover where the clutch cable screws in? I stripped it a while back and had used sealant, but it began leaking. I'm looking for lessons learned or alternatives. And if anyone knows the kit number, that would be very helpful. Thanks! | ||
| Wantxbr |
Sorry havn't made that mistake before but maybe look into trying a thread sert. It will seal better then a heli coli. Hopefully someone who knows will post next. | ||
| Teeps |
Not sure of the price or size needed but here's a link to time sert. http://www.timesert.com/html/inchsert.html Post the details here when available. | ||
| Cereal |
I know about timesert and it would be the best solution. Problem is, the kit cost more than a new cover. I've had motors with helicoiled spark plug holes and they work fine. If that works under compression, I'm not worried about it in the primary cover. And when I stripped it, I put it in hand tight and then tried giving it a quarter turn with a wrench. It took about an eight and then stripped so easily that I probably could have done it by hand. So be careful! | ||
| Cereal |
Just made a quick run to the hardware store to try different nuts in an attempt to figure out the size. Nothing worked. Does anyone know if they use a strange size or pitch on the end of the clutch cables? (Message edited by cereal on August 26, 2007) | ||
| Teeps |
Cereal Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 I know about timesert and it would be the best solution. Problem is, the kit cost more than a new cover. Heli coil (kit) will probably be close to $100; how much is the case? Note: The clutch cable threaded section is VERY fragile. And, easily broken with even the slightest torque. Thanks to Al (American Sport Bike) I was able to install a clutch cable without breaking it. Seat the threaded cable end in the case and give maybe 1/16 turn. To prevent oil seepage, I applied thread sealant. (not teflon tape) | ||
| Cereal |
Helicoil kits are $30 or less for one size. The $100 (and up) kits comes w/ dozens of coils and taps of different sizes. The new cover is $220. (Message edited by cereal on August 26, 2007) | ||
| Isham |
I broke a new clutch cable at the primary end last week. Must be made out of the softest aluminum on earth. | ||
| Cereal |
You broke the cable, or stripped the hole in the case? If it was the latter, how did you fix it? | ||
| Chrisb |
Timesert kits are $75 | ||
| Cereal |
Where? | ||
| Isham |
I broke a new clutch cable, threaded end snapped in the primary cover. | ||
| Wantxbr |
Isham you fix that yet? If you have a way of soldering the end on the cable you can use your old cables lower half. | ||
| Southsidebuellone |
"I stripped it a while back and had used sealant, but it began leaking." hmmmm interesting... all the grief i got for saying use TEFLON on drain bolts and here is a guy that says he stripped stuff using, and i quote... "SEALANT" NEVER USE SEALANT ! USE TEFLON is soft and pliable and actually a lubricant if you get it in the primary. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
dude, let it go. if you re-read it, i think he used the sealant after it stripped out. | ||
| Cereal |
Badlionsfan is right. I stripped it dry, then used a sealant to basically 'glue' it in place. I knew it wouldn't last too long, but I really wanted to ride! | ||
| Teeps |
Isham Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 I broke a new clutch cable, threaded end snapped in the primary cover. You're not alone, it is very easy to do. That whole cable affair is a poor design. | ||
| Tpoppa |
Helicoils work great. I stripped a thread on the clutch cover (even with a torque wrench). Took less than 5 minutes. Hasn't leaked since. | ||
| Chrisb |
Fine one near you. http://www.timesert.com/html/distributor.html | ||
| Chrisb |
I used Fastenal | ||
| Cereal |
Thanks Chris, but I still can't buy a kit if no one knows what size the hole is. | ||
| Fmaxwell |
Southsidebuellone NEVER USE SEALANT ! USE TEFLON is soft and pliable and actually a lubricant if you get it in the primary. Give it a rest. Toilet paper is soft and pliable, but that doesn't mean that it's harmless when floating around an engine. Harley and Buell hire real engineers and they recommend liquid thread sealant and O-rings. I'll take their years of engineering experience and education over your emotional need for acceptance of your use of Teflon tape. And before you start trotting out that tired old line about "124,000 miles", it proves nothing. You don't know if Teflon tape got into the oil. Nor do you know if it will next time you use it. It's like claiming that mountain climbing is safe because you met one old mountain climber. | ||
| Cereal |
Come on guys! If you want to start a war about sealant vs teflon tape, start a thread in the backfire board. Lets keep this on topic. Lets all band together for our love of riding Buells, and help a brotha out! | ||
| Cereal |
Looks like Southside started one already. Anyone wanting to join the battle, go to his thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/301679.html?1188256089 | ||
| Carbide |
I think someone has a real hard-on for teflon tape!  | ||
| Cereal |
I went to Home Depot and finally found the correct size, M8 x 1.0 (fine). Now I can't find the Helicoil kit, only the coils. No one, not even Fastenal, caries Timeserts in that size. The only thread repair kit I can find is made by Recoil. It's the same thing as Helicoil, just 3 times as expensive. Oh well, still a lot cheaper than a new case. And I won't have to worry about it stripping again! I think it comes with a few coils. So if anyone wants to borrow the kit, let me know. | ||
| Chrisb |
Timesert makes a kit in that size. Call fastenal and tell them to get you a kit in that size. Or just buy it direct from timesert. | ||
| Cereal |
I looked on-line, went to one of their stores, and talked to the employee. They didn't have any Timeserts, only Recoil. If you search their site for Timesert, Recoil is what you get. So that is what I bought. Don't believe me? Here: http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N=0&Ntk=Se arch+All&Ntt=timesert+m8-1.0&Ntx=mode+matchallpart ial&Nty=1&D=timesert+m8-1.0&Dx=mode+matchallpartia l I know Timesert has one in that size, it's on their web site. But I called them a few months ago looking for a different size kit, and they said I had to go through a distributor. The one they gave me on the east coast is in Boston, and I never could get a hold of them. How does Timesert stay in business when it is so hard to buy one of there kits? | ||
| Cereal |
Found that the M8x1.0 does thread, but 5/16x24 threads a bit smoother. Thanks Al for the heads up! | ||
| Southsidebuellone |
Harley and Buell hire real engineers and they recommend liquid thread sealant and O-rings. ha ha ha thats a laugh.... they hire real engineers that design sidestands that snap like twigs in the forest. they hire German's to aid in designing a motor that wont mission impossible on you. you guys sound so brainwashed by buell and harley corps. thats bad place to be if you ONLY run buell oil. and stuff. then why post on an AFTERMARKET supported website if you ONLY listen to what buell says? |
