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Sneth
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I see quite a few people swapping to chains. What's the point? It makes your buell stand out among buells, but it totally blends with the rest of the crowd.

The belt is part of what makes these bikes unique, why take that away?

Is there a performance gain u are chasing?
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Tq_freak
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

most people that have gone to a chain have been burned by the belt snaping and leaving them stranded (some more then once) I think there really isnt much of a performance gain unless you start playing with your gear ratios.

I am with you, I like my belt. No maint. like a chain and its different then the rest of the sport bikes.
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you have used the terms "unique", "stand out" and "totally blends with the rest".
From your apparent point of view, there may not be a benefit to modify YOUR bike in that fashion. I removed my belt drive kit because it broke 400 miles from home on a holiday weekend. This caused me some inconvenience, so I took the necessary steps to permanently dispose of this particular weak link on an otherwise serviceable motorcycle. I live in Alaska, ride far from home, and lay a heavy premium on the utmost reliability in all mechanical contrivances. No fashion statement was intended.

(Message edited by fullpower on May 21, 2007)
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I absolutely love the belt, but the first time it leaves me stranded, it's gone.

I do love the belt, though. Clean, silent (except when it's not) and absolutely maintenance free in 35,000 miles.
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Sneth
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

post 2004, new belt material...

and chains break too...

so uhhh. the logic come into play when?
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Thepup
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sneth,people with new bikes have had their belt snap,how many new chains snap?
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Sneth
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'd give equal probability of a chain snapping.
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Thepup
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bet personal experiences on here would dispute that Sneth.
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Sneth
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

because this is a belt based forum...


and if that is the case, why havent more harley people switched to chains?>
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Kmfw160
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want a colored belt. I think that is the only mod not available.
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes chains break too.
And a broken chain may cause more damage.

BUT

I can go to almost any UJM Bike shop and get a chain and they will know how to replace it.
Or you can do it yourself.

Try changing a belt from a XB on the side of the road or having a UJM shop tech do it, that is if the UJM shop has a spare Buell belt.

Best of luck finding a Buell dealer in the middle of no where with a Buell Belt in stock.

I changed my Tuber over to chain 'cause it takes over 2 to 3 hours to change the belt.

If it was easier and I could change a belt as easy as a chain I would of kept my belt...
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's go bottom line here Seth, OK?


xxXx

Hammer at the Gap

REAL MEN RUN CHAIN!
GOT IT?

Here is the chain gang as of a month ago:

1.Saintly ( two conversions)
2.Trenchtractor
3.Fullpower
4.Diablobrian
5.Trojan
6. Pcmodeler
7. Hammer71
8. Ronlv
9. Gentleman Jon
10. 1stBuell
11. trac95ker
12. Buellfighter
13. Spiderman
14. Tankbueller
15. Spatten1
16. Ragnagwar
17. Xb9ser (Glenn)
18. Mortarmanmike120
19. GaryL
20. Firebolteric_ma
21. Livnlo (sully)
22. Wolfridgerider (mark)
23. Rexwinter
24. Rafartist
25. Thaas (Tom)
26. Slaughter ( racebike only )
27. Chaconas ( racebike)
28. CCS 53 (racebike)
29. Ericz
30. ND_xb

Seems like there must be something to it, if only from the number of conversions.

Am I right, my brothers?




PS:
I can also tell you this, not one of these dudes that I know gives a flying f**k about blending in with anybody, that is for damn sure!

(Message edited by gentleman_jon on May 21, 2007)

(Message edited by gentleman_jon on May 22, 2007)
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Thepup
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Completely different applications.Why are you so worried about people wanting a chain on their Buells,it's really none of your concern.
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Tiburondriver47
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do they make one for the 06/07 swing arm? Also do they make a sprocket for quicker acceleration?
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We can cook something up Tib ;)
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saintly would know about the 06/07 swing arm, you might want to pm him.

A variety of sprockets are available to allow for faster acceleration, ( I use one myself), or for other specialized uses, ie: stunting, road racing, touring.
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Sloppy
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My race bikes use chain.

My street bikes use belt or a shaft.

The answer to which is better depends upon your application. No one but you decides how you use your bike, so you get to decide which one is better...

And just look at how many top fuel dragsters use chain drive on their blowers...
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Saintly
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do they make one for the 06/07 swing arm?





YES!
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Damnut
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do we have to hash up this shit AGAIN!!!!


CHAIN OR NO CHAIN........... WHO GIVES A FLYING F*CK!!!!!!!!
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Xb9ser
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i went to a chain after my inproved belt lasted 2 weeks. o3 xb9s.
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Madduck
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you have the correct tools, spare belt and have worked thru the belt change procedure once it should take you less than half an hour too swap it out on the side of the road. Works that way on my ULY YMMV.
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Sneth
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i was asking out of curiosity.

from what i've read, it sounds like people are looking to niche out their buells in the small puddle of buells...

if you go back to my OP, sincere questions folks...
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Disturbed
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hammer at the Gap

REAL MEN RUN CHAIN!
GOT IT?
That's right, Hammer can't ride a lick, his chain allows him to do that. LOL

This is like Big Block vs. Small Block, auto vs. manual, V-Twin vs. I4, or any other endless debate that has been hashed over, and over, and over, and.....

The "Chain Gang" is very proud of their chain conversions. I still can't get over the fact that Hammer really couldn't ride if it wasn't for his chain conversion, shocking.

For me, it's a belt. Why? It came on my bike and I can spend alot of money on fuel while my belt lasts. Is belt better, who cares? GO RIDE.



edit: Disturbed-that picture's been up on this board before, and it's been edited out before. It's in poor taste, even if it's kinda funny and on target.

rt


(Message edited by road_thing on May 21, 2007)

Gotcha road_thing, no worries.

"Winning an argument on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win you are still a retard!"

(Message edited by disturbed on May 21, 2007)
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

White is faster than blue.
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Spatten1
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'd give equal probability of a chain snapping.

And you've owned how many motorcycles?
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do we have to hash up this shit AGAIN!!!!


CHAIN OR NO CHAIN........... WHO GIVES A FLYING F*CK!!!!!!!!


Well Said!!!!! Who really cares, Use YOUR bike the way YOU feel it is best for YOUR needs.

Okay...Now back to what you were doing!!!

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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Even if you win, You're still a retard....
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)






OUCH!!
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Hammer71
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's funny how the second I put it on I was transformed into a better rider. LOL. No other reason for me other than quicker acceleration and more drive out of the corners (lost a little top end) but thats not where I needed the boost.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Real men run chains.

Real men don't trailer their bikes

Real men don't have cheese graters.

Real men don't run stock exhaust

Give me a break.

I am starting to have a hard time keeping up.

Chain verses belt.....If ya feel like Changing to a chain have at it, Notice I did not say upgrade.

It is your bike make it your own.
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