| Author | Message | ||
     Blackxb9 |
My 2007 12R left me stranded today on a very steep hill. It went D.O.A. (Died On Acceleration). It is completely dead, no power, no lights, no fuel pump whine...nothing. I have no idea why. I turned the corner, whacked the throttle and accelerated up the hill, shifted into 3rd gear and wham... lost all power and coasted to the side of the road. I checked all the fuses and the battery cable and everything looks fine. Any other things I should check before I call the dealer. It is a 2007 12R with only 1,500 miles, Drummer, stock ECM. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -Black | ||
| Ds_tiger |
dood- complete battery failure? Check 1st. honestly - that would be the 1/2/3 culprit aside from major bike malfunctions like ignitors, stators, etc. I bought a Bandit 1200 in 2002 that ran great for about 2 weeks until the bike died exactly like you describe. Actually it was trying to start it- so not exactly as you describe- but the culprit was a not completely charged battery from the original set up by the dealer. my 2 cents worth> as they say | ||
| Fpresky |
try putting a charger to the battery and see if you get any power to circuits. you could have a defective battery that floated a cell and died.also check your relays to provide power | ||
| Blackxb9 |
I checked the battery and it is putting out full voltage. The cables are tight and the fuses all check out fine. No power to any circuits. | ||
| Sub65chris |
Check a short in the main wiring between the stator and teh voltage regulator . my bike did the same thing and it was finally fixed after a new harness was put in under warenty.I went around and around and through 3 baterrys trying to fix it . good luck | ||
| Diablobrian |
doesn't the BAS cut out have similar symptoms? | ||
| Froggy |
I believe the BAS cutout is just a cut to engine power. Gages, lights, and other things will still work then you just toggle the kill switch to reset the BAS. | ||
| Blackxb9 |
My gut feeling thinks it is wire harness related. Hopefully tonight I can look through the manual and troubleshoot it. I like having the electronics under the seat in my 9S, not near as user friendly under the fairing. | ||
| Ronlv |
look where the wires go behind the rear head and between pipe and frame near starter i had them melt on the pipe before | ||
| Gowindward |
Sounds like one of the relays | ||
| Blackxb9 |
Ok thanks guys I will give them both a look. I appreciate the advice. | ||
| New12r |
Check the main fuse!! It is not in the fuse box, check your manual for specific locations. | ||
| Blackxb9 |
Ok I have the manual at home. I will look it up. Thanks again. | ||
| Yohinan |
Since starting to work on these bikes I have come across two bikes that are very similar to your situation. One of them was a bad relay which is an easy fix. The other (not an easy fix) was the wiring harness was loose. Basically where the fuse box/relay box is, the wiring coming out of it was loosely installed. You could take the wiring harness and wiggle it and right there in front of you the bike would go from running to not running just with the wiggle of the harness. I am not sure how this happened as if memory is correct this was a non crashed bike. Very odd indeed. One thing I don't remember is what year these bikes were. I know neither was an 07 as I have not had one that new come across the fix it board. Only done 06 and earlier. You could just be one of the very few unlucky ones. Sooo, since your bike is brand new and under warranty I say let the dealer fix it. Hopefully you have one that is Buell competent/friendly. | ||
| Ironhead1977 |
Do let us know what you find for future reference | ||
| Samiam |
Are the needles still frozen in place? Check the "battery" fuse in (yes it is, New12R) the main fuse block. Should be a 30A fuse. Same thing happened to me on a demo ride, was accelerating, then all of a sudden, no power! Had me worried for a little bit, especially since I didn't have the dealer's number handy but I discovered it was the fuse right there on the scene, someone had replaced the battery fuse with the 15A spare. No wonder it blew. So I just put the "lights" fuse (also 15A) in the spot and rode back just fine (less pull on the battery anyway with the headlights out). So anyway, check the fuse, hope it's that easy to fix, and get back to us! Oh yeah and the TT rides quite nicely if I do say so myself! Sam | ||
| Samiam |
Update (after reading you already checked the fuses): Hmm, if you have a multimeter, check the voltage at the fuses, see if you're getting voltage there. Other than that, I'd just start tracing to where you actually have voltage... Sam | ||
| Samiam |
Update again (man, I feel dumb): New12R was right, there is a "main fuse", it is under the seat (it was in the main block on a lightning because the main block is under the seat) on a firebolt. Should be a 30A fuse right next to the battery. I feel dumb. I did discover something though, my service manual(for an '06 Firebolt) has two identical pages, except for the page numbers, pages 7-62 and 7-63 are IDENTICAL. Didn't really expect to find a typo, let alone a cloned page in my service manual. Sam | ||
| Cringblast |
Blackxb9, I got the 07 xb12r also. check where the seat sets down next to the pos battery wires. The seat on mine has created an indention (wear) in the thick pos battery plastic. Have to trim some of the underseat away and smooth with some sand paper to get it off the terminal. Just a thought for ya. | ||
| Blackxb9 |
UPDATE: Well I checked the main fuse under the seat and sure enough it was blown. So I went out and bought 3 more fuses, 1 to replace and 2 spares. As soon as I put in a new fuse it blew. So I messed with the harness, disconnected the battery and tried to find any bare wires or discoloration on the metal from a arching wire and nothing. So I gave it another try and sure enough it blew another fuse as soon as I put it in. Well that was enough for me. I looked everywhere, even between the rear cylinder and the frame and I can't see anything strange. So i'm calling the dealer today. Hopefully they come pick it up since it is under warranty and I don't have a way to get it there. I know I probably won't have it back for a long time knowing the backlog at the dealer. Guess i'll be spending more time in the saddle of the 9S now. | ||
| Blackxb9 |
Ok now I am pissed!!! I just called the dealer and they treated me like I had the ebola virus. The service lady was a royal B**ch. First they tell me they can't get my bike in until May 17th. Then they say they can't pick it up unless they charge mileage and pick up fees. I tell her this is a 2007 under warranty and she says very rudely..."we don't get paid by Harley to pick up bikes under warranty". So I say wow this is very disapointing and this is my first ever experience with the service department. So I say well maybe I should contact Erik Buell since I do have his direct email and she snaps back "well maybe he will come pick up your bike for free". I just said thats very funny and hung up. I am so ticked right now. Guess I should email Court. | ||
| Blackxb9 |
Update again...after cooling down a bit I called back and talked with the Sales Manager, who couldn't believe the way I was treated. He filled in the Service Manager who was very gracious and is coming to get my bike asap at no charge. He was very apologetic and was going to deal with the issue immediately. Ok now I can relax a bit. It pays to go higher up the chain of command. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Wow man, sorry to hear that about the dealership. | ||
| Dmhines |
My XB12Scg completely died while riding with 70 miles on the odometer. The culprit? Somebody replace the 30 AMP main fuse with the DIODE and left the DIODE plug on the harness empty. I can't believe it made it that far before totally melting the diode. I was stranded on the side of the road for about and hour and talking with the service department before we figured out what was wrong. Was able to put the spare fuse in there and make it home. They sent me a new Diode in the mail to replace the fried one. | ||
| Blackxb9 |
Just got the call from the doctor, I mean dealer about the condition of my baby, I mean bike. Looks like I had a wire rubbed raw under the chin fairing that went into the voltage regulator. That was what kept blowing the main fuse. It took 4.5 hours of diagnostics tests to find it but looks like she is free to check out today. Can't wait to get her home in her garage where she belongs. Kudos to the Battlefield H-D/Buell service team. | ||
| 07xb12scg |
And I hope you didn't have to pay a cent since this is warranty work! | ||
| Buellshyter |
So I say well maybe I should contact Erik Buell since I do have his direct email and she snaps back "well maybe he will come pick up your bike for free"" That was comical, albeit I'm not the one who's bike broke down. | ||
| Lions |
WOW!! Buells and H-D really do suck! Goddamn...I don't miss them for a second..Holy Crap...I'm reading so many problematic threads with Buells and their service on this site...I just feel sooo glad I got rid of mine....who on Gods green earth wants that kind of head-ache in their lives with all the other problems that go with it?? | ||
| Chris_in_tn |
So Lions, what exactly is your purpose for being on this board then, just to stir up some sh*t? Go lurk on a Kawi board and wollow in their blandness. | ||
| Lions |
Cause I ride with a few Buellers....and am possibly getting my XB back for a fraction of what I sold it for...just gonna hafta deal with the shabby mechanics in my area...Stop being such an immature baby and see the problems for what they are... |
