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Kaveman
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just looking at the service manual for resetting the TPS. It mentions the "digital technician"(H-D service system). Is there a "shade tree" version of this electronic tool? I like doing these type of things on my own and want to get the "tool". I'm sure this is somewhere in the archive, but figured you guys could get me in the right direction alot faster!
TIA
Kaveman
BTW: Can the "digital technician" remap the ECM?
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Knowledge vault and search can be your friend. Prolly the most talked-about subject on Badweb.

(and I'm refusing to bring up countersteer)
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Kaveman
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, You're right... Did a search and got ALOT of info... Just would like to know which is best, priced right, etc...
TIA Again
Kaveman
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's really only one answer but it depends on exactly what you want to achieve...
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Gowindward
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Google Technoresearch. Al at American Sport Bike is a dealer.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look here:
VDSTS SW

There is a specific procedure to follow once you have the SW. It is quite simple. There is no way to do it without SW to command the ECM to read the voltage from the TP when it is in the COMPLETELY shut position.


Al
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Al_lighton,
Where can I find the way to check for all codes, and all the functions that this unit can do, the lack of instructions on how to do ALL what this is Capable of is a PITTY???
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Al_lighton
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It used to not capture fan or muffler servo codes, but got all the rest. I haven't hooked it up and disabled those functions to see if they fixed it. I did a bunch of testing for them, generated log files, so that TR had the data to snag those codes, but I'm not sure if it does. It does reset all of them, however.

They don't have a comprehensive list of the functions it performs on their web site. It doesn't do static timing at this time. It does AFV, TPS, and DTC resets. It does fuel pump, fuel injector, tach, and I think coil checks. It displays all the relevant real time operating parameters (i.e., all the sensor inputs, tach, FI duration, etc).

I've never found the lack of a decent manual to be that big a deal, once it is installed and working. It is easy SW to use, it's not like it's Solidworks or Photoshop. All that it does is plain to see and easy to access once the SW is running.

Al
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is the difference between the PDA and PC options?
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Gowindward
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With the dongle key you can run either software.
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Terribletim
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm. . .I hear it's all about the ongle of the dongle!?!?!
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PC vs PDA. Some time in mid 2006, and I'm not sure exactly when, the dongle became platform specific, i.e., for a PDA or for a PC. There is a third dongle like the older ones that work on both a PDA and a PC, but it costs $55 more.

I use both the PC and PDA version all the time. The PC is more user friendly, what with all the big windows and gauges and such. But the PDA version is REAL handy, I can walk up to a bike and do stuff without having to boot the PC and clear a path to it for the bike to roll there.

BUT, there is a very cool new feature that I just used for the first time last weekend, and it is revolutionizing how I do map beta testing. The PDA version always could capture log files, but the log file didn't capture AFV, and the log display program didn't display AFV. It was a hole in the program.

But now it does. And Beta testing maps is now greatly improved. I send a rider out with a PDA in pocket, recording the parameters, with instructions to try to hold it at certain RPMS steady for some part of their ride. After they return, I can open that log file on the PC using either VDSTS or a program called Dataview, (free for download on the TR site, which is really just a stripped version of VDSTS for reading PDA log files). Viewed as a virtual strip chart, I can see TP, RPM, and AFV for the entire ride. I don't even need it to learn, I can see the instantaneous AFV and let my brain do the averaging instead of the AFV learn function. I can tell almost instantly where the map is too rich or too lean across the closed loop domain.

I'm buying a couple PDAs so that I can have map beta testers log some data. Maps will be even better as a result.

Al
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Dmhines
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Al ... I'd be happy to map data with the D&D map I just got from you ... just let me borrow the PDA and tell me what to do ..

Dan Hines
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