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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 06:53 pm: | 
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Any case U thinking about it.
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 06:54 pm: |
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This is the Garmin c330 which is on sale from about $400. |
Fl_a1a
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 06:57 pm: |
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 07:00 pm: |
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Xbob
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 07:09 pm: |
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those are some pretty small pictures. |
Rocketsprink
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 07:46 pm: |
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Yeah. Would be nice to actually see what you're doing!  |
Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 07:53 pm: |
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2cnd try
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Fl_a1a
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Fl_a1a
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 08:11 pm: |
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 08:22 pm: |
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 08:59 pm: |
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If you already know how to get there:
other multi uses too (cell, camcorder, xm radio)
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 09:14 pm: |
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one more larger pic:
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Reepicheep
| | Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:15 pm: |
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Cool! Thanks for the pics. I put mine on the other side... not that I would ever consider fussing with it while the bike is in motion or anything... |
Cruisin
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 08:44 am: |
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I like my StreetPilot:
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Slaughter
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 09:17 am: |
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How would you guys compare the visibility of those displays while riding? Do they show up pretty well in bright daylight?
How about back-lighting for night?
I'm just starting to shop.
Thanks for the help and posting the pics. |
Khollister
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 09:52 am: |
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Here's my Zumo install. I used a RAm base that has an 11mm hole and mounted it on the unused mirror mount since I have bar ends. I shortened the Garmin cable and put a connector on the end so I can move the mount between bikes. I installed a pigtail on each bike.
The screen is readable OK in sunlight unless you get a bad reflection. It dims down fine at night.
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Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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How did you guys tap into the electrical system to power the gps... did you go and splice a wire behind the flyscreen?
My garmin c330 will last 4hrs... good for short trips, but multi-day trips I'll have to think of something else to charge the unit. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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That's what I did. I put in a voltage regulator and tapped in off of there. There are pictures here somewhere where you can see the actual wires I tapped into to get switched V+.
Some of the Garmins need voltage regulators, others take vehicle power fine. My Quest needed a regulator. |
Cruisin
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:36 pm: |
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As Khollister said, in bright sunlight they are easily visible unless you're getting a direct reflection of the sun off of them, but with the right mounting your helmet should shade it where it would get a reflection from. At night (at least on mine) the color scheme changes - the yellow background goes black and the streets are white (bigger roads are red or pink). Very easily readable at night without being too bright.
Mine doesn't have a battery, so it only can be run when plugged in. The quest 2 is similar to the streetpilot, but has the battery.
If I had the money to spend, I'd either get a Zumo or a StreetPilot 2820. Probably the Zumo since it has a bigger screen, left hand controls, and the battery. Garmin definitely makes their stuff right. As a side note, I bought mine refurb'd from www.gpsdiscount.com - and more than a year after I had it from them the anti glare coating on the screen flaked off (it started with a scratch after the bike was parked outside in a windstorm - probably got some tree branch that sliced the coating and it bubbled from there). Definitely out of the warranty period I contacted Garmin to see if it affects the product at all and how much it would cost to fix. To make the long story short I sent it in and got a new (probably refurb'd) unit. Definitely excellent customer service. |
Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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Where can one by a voltage regulator and about how much does it cost?
I wonder if I just solder a inductor with a capacitor in series to the positive led, would that do the trick? |
Fl_a1a
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 01:09 pm: |
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One thing to mention about the garmin c330, it is not meant for a motorcycle. But it works like a champ, even with gloves.
If it rains, you got problems, unless you throw a clear ziplock bag over it.
I've had about 4 other low end GPS... this one blows those ones away with regard to navigation while in motion. The other ones I would not even try it.
A real nice feature is the next turn icon that is always visible. You hit it and it pops up a 5 second window that tells you the name of the street and if you should be in the right or left lane. After 5 seconds it will goes back to regular navigation.
With the volume on full blast I can hear directions from the unit with my stock muffler.
Also, the speed trap / camera alerts are really cool too.
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Khollister
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 01:43 pm: |
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I pulled power from the battery (with an inline fuse) & ran the cable under the airbox cover and out up by the fuel filler cap. There is a lot of opinions on whether switched or unswitched is best. On a unit without an internal battery, I would go definitely go unswitched so the unit didn't have to boot back up & lock on to the sats after getting fuel, etc.
I was going to pull switched power from behind the flyscreen (found the wires in the schematic), but everything is wrapped & laced up. Since I have the translucent plastics, I didn't want to start cutting stuff apart and end up with something unsightly. I could have tapped into the tailight wire under the seat, or I might still put in a small 12v relay. Given the very small draw from something like a GPS receiver, I don't think there is much risk of running the battery down unless you forget & leave the thing on overnight (that probably wouldn't even do it with a strong battery). |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 02:46 pm: |
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Here ya go...
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/243147.html?1164982165
What are the voltage requirements for your Garmin? The Quest wanted 5v regulated. |
Khollister
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 04:53 pm: |
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All of the Garmin automotive GPSR's that I am aware of run of off vehicle power (12-14 VDC). I spot checked a few of the other models and all state 12-24 VDC input. The odd thing about the Quest is it says 5 VDC input, but specs load at 13.8 VDC. Not sure what's going on there. |
Jackbequick
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The Garmin C320/C330 (and maybe the C5xx family too) have an internal 3.7V 1800 mAH rechargable Li-Ion battery. Some "end of service life" battery failures are starting to be seen on those after about one year of use. Those batteries would typically have a service life of about 500 charge/discharge cycles.
Some people are replacing their own C3xx/C5xx batteries, it involves opening the case and some soldering but is done easily enough at home by the average person.
The C3xx and C5xx have a power input connector in the mount/cradle and also another barrel type jack for the AC adapter. They can also be powered up from and charged by a USB port connection (that would be 5.0 VDC at 500 mA).
The power input is listed as 12/24V and the draw is 15W at 13.8V or about 1 Amp. I assume that is for the mount/cradle. The voltage at the cradle is not known but I suspect it is the unregulated voltage (nominal 12V) as found at/supplied by the point of connection.
So it looks like the C3xx accepts a 12-24V DC input on the cradle, a 5V input on the USB port, and some other unknown voltage from the AC adapter barrel jack. Based on that I'd guess that those units have a fairly robust power input system that accepts several different input voltages that the the power and battery charging is all regulated internally.
It would be a good idea to check the DC voltage at the cradle with a VOM. If is the bike's battery voltagee (12 VDC nominal) then the C3xx can be powered off of the bike's 12V system without an inverter or regulator.
You could wire in a DC socket to take the mount/cradle plug (which has a fuse in it) that comes attached to the mount/cradle. Or you could cut the plug off the mount/cradle cable and wire the mount/cradle into another fused circuit on the bike that will handle an additional 1-2 Amp draw.
I wouldn't worry about shutting the GPS off for fuel stops, those will get a hot fix or warm fix very quickly (15 seconds +/-) if powered back up in 30 minutes or so as long as they are in the same place and have a sky view. But, to keep it on, you could wire it to the accessory on position if you have one and that will let you stop the engine and remove the key.
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Jackbequick
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Keith,
The odd thing on the Quest is that the plug on the 12/24V DC power adapter had a DC-DC inverter built into it to drop the input voltage to 5V out for the Quest.
So the 13.8V draw figure is for the input side of the DC-DC adapter and at the typical voltage found in a car with the engine running.
Other than it having a connector on the GPS end that could only be used on the Quest, the Quest adapter looked a lot like all the other power plugs for the 9-35V models that just passed the input voltage through.
One clue to the difference was that the Quest cable cost about $72 and a cable for a StreetPilot 2610 was about $30 less. No one in their right mind buys any Garmin accessories from Garmin, check eBay and online first.
Jack
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Reepicheep
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Yup. I measured the output of the car adapter, and it was 5v solid. It's regulated all right.
I think the GPS V's would eat anything below 36 volts or something. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 10:47 pm: |
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Rams mounting?
Freakin' sicko! |
Debueller
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Helopilot
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Bads1
| | Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 07:30 am: |
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Do female Rams have horn's also.lol |
Ocbueller
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Khollister,
I used the same set up from ram on my Buells, on the Ducati I had to get more creative. Am curious, what type of connector did you go with for the pigtails?
With a replacement cable at $21 and it is still inconvenient to connect and remove at the base.
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