| Author | Message | ||
     Nutsosane |
Cool, remote control rat lab. NUTS | ||
| Garrett2 |
and people wonder why bikers get a bad rep.... thanks guys! thanks for making us look like idiots and assholes! | ||
| Aeroe |
and people wonder why bikers get a bad rep.... thanks guys! thanks for making us look like idiots and assholes! Exactly how did I make bikers look like idiots and assholes? | ||
| Ironheadsporty |
The only people that are assholes are the people that push you off the road....and follow it up with a nice little conversation like... "I have the right of way because im bigger!!!".. WAIT......WHAT DID YOU SAY? | ||
| Nutsnbolt |
Yeah, there has obviously been a precedent set by parking there before, and not recieving a note until now. You know what, I would still park it there, but just not start it up there. Maybe walk it around a corner or a bit down the strip and then fire it off. But, if no one has told you not to before and as long as you aren't deliberatly trying to be an A hole. I'd do it. Hell, I'd tape that note to the windshield of my bike. That's like a badge of honor. Ride hard Mark | ||
| Phantom5oh |
Don't make something out of nothing. No need to be passive aggressive about it. Park someplace else. They are trying to work and your bike is ruining their experiments. I mean think of it from their perspective, they are trying to get an education too. If they complain enough the school could start regulating motorcycles on campus. | ||
| Roadrailer |
If they complain enough the school could start regulating motorcycles on campus. Bingo. They've asked nicely, and given a solid reason for their request, why not be a nice guy and just park somewhere else? If you push the issue, you may find yourself parking in the lots with the cars, or worse. | ||
| Djkaplan |
thanks guys! thanks for making us look like idiots and assholes! Exactly how did I make bikers look like idiots and assholes? He's probably talking about my stupid episode. I feel ridiculous for posting it now. Sometimes... I really am an idiot and an assho1e. | ||
| Naustin |
They were nice, so you should be nice and park elsewhere. If I was the scientist with the ruined experiments, and you parked there again, I'd kick your bike over and pour all the rat turds over it.... Nick  | ||
| Freezerburn |
I am surprised that there is not a motorcycle only parking for bikes. Many campuses have them. They actually relieve parking space. The auditory geek squad is upset probably because the rats get all excited when they hear that Buell beast. Rats have dreams too. Hey, park by the lab, save a rat's dreams. | ||
| Aeroe |
OK Gentlemen, I think we need to get a few things straight. 1) There are a few spots on campus that are reserved for motorcycles only. The closes one was too far way, so I parked in the fire escape. Let the man that's never been lazy throw the first stone. 2) I had no idea that there were auditory experiments going on in the room next to the fire escape. The building is used for Aerospace/Mechanical engineering stuff.Plus the room they're in is just down the hall from the machine shop. (That's where we build and test race cars, jet engines, etc.) 3) I haven't parked there since I got the note. (Still haven't figured out how I'm being an a$$hole yet...  ) 4) My friend parked there because he thought it was a good idea, he had no idea I had gotten the note.(Once again, not sure how we're being a$$holes) 5) I love my D&D | ||
| Espcustoms |
You're not being an a$$hole at all. If you were to take the advice of some of the posts and continue to park there and make excessive noise on purpose, THEN you would be an a$$hole! Seems like a lot of people think they're entitled to do whatever they want wherever they want these days. It's the motorcyclists with that attitude that are causing the rest of us problems. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Aeroe, park where you like. They can put up with a little noise for 30 seconds here and there. Anytime you post something like this, you're opening yourself up to the flamers and stone throwers who lurk and wait for anyone to mention that they did something that they don't approve of... because they think it gives motorcyclists a bad name. So far, the only ones I've ever heard of saying motorcyclists have a bad name are THESE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERY LITTLE THING. "Oh you're making us all look like a$$holes!" "No WONDER we get a bad rep, because of people like YOU" and so forth... Just like they will now flame me for saying so. It gets old fast. This ain't the sixties and the Boozefighters haven't been terrorizing small towns in a long time. Motorcyclists have a great reputation, everywhere I go, that's what I hear. Why else to we get to park mostly for free, and up in the front row. Most every rock concert I've ever been to has free bike parking, near or IN the VIP section. Malls have bike parking right up front. I go down to the aquarium, *BAM* bike parking, front row. Why do they give bad people such great parking spaces? Nobody ever gives me grief for parking right on the sidewalk next to the front door of the hardware store or supermarket... I do it right in front of cops all the time, not a single ticket in 17 years. Flame resistant suit is active. | ||
| Metalstorm |
Damn it Pwnzer, you're making us look like a$$holes!  Just kidding. Please see the humor in that  | ||
| Slaughter |
Yabbut Matt, Try riding the Crest or Angeles Forest by Mount Emma Rd - and wonder why you'll see as many as a dozen sportbikes pulled over at one time by 3-4 police cars. Try the Crest and hit 60 MPH and wonder why you'll be hit with equipment AND moving violations often totalling more than $1500 in a single stop. Try blasting down Mulholland through the residential areas with non DOT, non EPA pipes racked open - and wonder why the patrols have increased so much in the past 5 years - and wonder why they're now ticketing for non-DOT and non-EPA stamped pipes. Think this comes because we're giving the public a warm fuzzy feeling? I've been riding these roads too many decades now to think that we're NOT bringing it on ourselves. (Message edited by slaughter on December 16, 2006) | ||
| Pwnzor |
Metalstorm, of course I see the humor in that. Very nicely done. Steve, you're confusing cops with people. I ride all over the place and I never get pulled over, ever. The only time I've ever gotten a ticket on a bike was just last year, on my XB12R with race pipe and no mirrors, and my ticket was for a toll road violation, nothing more. I forgot my dang transponder and got nailed. All those things you mentioned have nothing to do with where we park. They have everything to do with the number of sportbikers that have to be med-evac'd to trauma centers, often at some cost to the taxpayers. The equipment violations are just pure revenue, once they have you stopped for speeding, they are going to nail you for the pipe and anything else. That's what happens in a maximum enforcement area like Angeles Crest. I ride Ortega Highway 3 or 4 times a week and there's a new cop in town, he just stands on the side of the road flagging down bikers behind a blind corner. He knows bikes come speeding through there, so he's stopping them. It's called a speed trap. So, in 17 years of riding these Southern California backroads and highways I've never gotten a ticket or been in an accident. I guess it boils right down to individual conduct. I guess those who get tickets frequently might grasp at straws as to why they are being "victimized", eh? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Option A: Be a jerk and disregard note, rev engine loudly, and do smokey burnouts. Option B: Heed the note and never park there again, but lose a nice parking spot close to where you need it. Option C: Find the lab, let them know you appreciate the note and will grant their request, but ask them when their experiment will be concluded. Explain that you park there because it is very close to where you need to go, and that there are not spaces available closer. Create a win/win for everyone. They don't care if you park there. They don't hate motorcycles. They don't hate you. They will if you don't show them courtesy (you have been so far). They just don't want to have to repeat their experiments when there is a beautiful sounding Buell right in the middle of it! Besides, it's probably your buddy with his loud pipe, poker run, piece of crap Harley making all the noise. You are just the one that got the note! | ||
| Pwnzor |
Personally I'd just kill the bike as I was rolling to a stop and then park it. When it's time to leave, I'd roll out a bit, then start it up. The note was polite. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Whatever you do, don't park there again... The campus police might catch you... | ||
| Pwnzor |
I second that motion. Campus cops are like the friggin half-breed chihuahua/pit bull with an Adderall prescription. Nothing better to do than hassle students all day long, and at night they fan out into the neighborhoods and hassle kids. If it's really against the written rules to park there, then save your bike from a trip on a tow truck. | ||
| Roadrailer |
Motorcyclists have a great reputation, everywhere I go... Then you need to get out more. The loud pipe issue (the basis of this thread) IS coming to a head, and communities ARE starting to decide that they don't have to put up with the noise (see the link I posted earlier as one example). The laws are already on the books, all they have to do is enforce them. What gets old is people who think they can act in any manner they choose, no matter how obnoxious, irritating, or illegal it may be, and everyone else just needs to stand there and take it. | ||
| Pwnzor |
What gets old is people who think they can act in any manner they choose, no matter how obnoxious, irritating, or illegal it may be, and everyone else just needs to stand there and take it. Don't like it, vote Republican. Then you need to get out more. I get out plenty. My Buell is my primary mode of personal transportation. AND I ride through Huntington Beach ALL the time (the indoor gun range is there) where people constantly tell me that the cops are d1cks and will pull me over because my pipe is too loud or if I go 5mph over the limit. So far, so good. Hasn't happened, I haven't SEEN it happening to excess, and frankly the only place I've ever seen noise ordinances enforced are those exact spots where squids come ripping around blind corners like idiots with their straight pipes blaring. All you have to do is use a little common sense; watch your speed and noise over a rise, around blind corners, and in neighborhoods. The laws are already on the books, all they have to do is enforce them. Therein lies the conundrum. Getting cops to do their jobs is like getting the guy at Carl's Jr. to make me a fresh cheeseburger instead of assembling one out of the steamer tray. It happens, rarely. Do something stupid in the cop's direct line of sight and you get precisely what you ask for. (LEO's don't take it personal OK?) I maintain that bikers have a great image everywhere I go. Squids do not. Out of curiosity, does your community have these laws you refer to? Maybe instead of complaining about it you could try doing something about it. Get yourself a seat on the city council and flex your clout. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Ok, I checked out your link, and it is to laugh. First, you are basing your facts on what NPR says. Second, Carefree AZ. seems to be a resort town with lots of golf courses and entertainment for retired folks. RV parks, Hometown Buffet, and golf courses upon golf courses. SOOOO... what you have there is a Palm Springs style resort with lots of older folks. Yeah, go riding through there, pipes a-blaring, and you'll ruffle the old birds' feathers. That place was made for them, and of course they will resent the young folks ripping it up through there. Let's be realistic, if I went tearing through Leisure World like that, I'd get a similar reaction. You can't expect much else from people who go 30mph in a 50mph zone, straddling two lanes, barely able to see over the steering wheel. They run around with their hearing aids cranked up so high that they get pissed off at chirping birds 2 miles distant. Find me a more relevant story about how this issue is "coming to a head" in a regular city, you know, the kind with hundreds of thousands of people. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Who cares... seriously. If they make a new law, big deal... new laws are made all the time. Then you'll just have to run a pipe with EPA stamps... hello Odie or Drummer. I haven't been questioned at all, and I'm not exactly easy on the throttle. | ||
| Roadrailer |
I maintain that bikers have a great image everywhere I go. Well, get outside of your neighborhood, or maybe just browse around on the internet, and you'll see that doesn't hold true in many places. Out of curiosity, does your community have these laws you refer to? There is a federal law, IIRC. All communities have it. Enforcing it can be tricky, which is why it is often overlooked. But, as in the example in Carefree, when enough people get pissed off and call the cops, action is taken. I have, actually, talked to a police Lt. about this very issue. He mentioned they had been receiving more and more complaints in the past few years. Ok, I checked out your link, and it is to laugh. I used that as one example, not as the basis of my entire argument. Do a search, you'll find similar situations in other locations. Even HD and the AMA have recognized the issue. See the links below. I've included a few links. There's lots more information to be found. http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/positions/no ise.asp http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/06092006/news/1 06948.htm http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/newsandupdates/ha rley_davidson_motorcycle_noise/ http://www.nypost.com/seven/12152006/news/regional news/debate_revs_up_over_noxious_biker_noise_regio nalnews_frankie_edozien.htm | ||
| Hdbobwithabuell |
stupid a-hole rats. always causing trouble... | ||
| Pwnzor |
Ok, I took the time to read all those articles you linked to. 1) Motorcycles will NEVER be banned. They are one of the most energy efficient means of transportation 2) To say motorcycling is a privilege is misleading. Operating ANY motor vehicle is a privilege, not a right, under the laws of all 50 states of this country. Farm equipment is pretty much the only exception. So, to say that the privilege to operate a motorcycle could be revoked is just unrealistic. 3) The only major metropolitan area mentioned in any of the articles with regard to sound enforcement was New York, and in the same sentence it is made clear that Bloomberg just isn't having it. 4) Like I said, bedroom communities may succeed in some level of enforcement with regard to noise, but to say that it's "coming to a head" is alarmist propaganda at best, and just downright inaccurate at worst. 5) I agree that Harleys with straight pipes are obnoxious, not to mention how much power they lose by running that kind of exhaust, but if they want to be stupid, go slow, and get tickets for their efforts, then let them. I ride safely, my pipe makes plenty of noise, and I have yet to be stopped or hassled. Again, like I said, it boils down to personal conduct. So if by "get out of your neighborhood" you mean I should go to some small town in Arizona or New Hampshire then I guess I'll watch myself when I get there.... LOL | ||
| Roadrailer |
I don't think I ever said that motorcycles are going to be banned. I am suggesting that communities will start enforcing noise regulations already on the books. As I've documented, the issue has already come up in many municipalities, and, even if no action has yet been taken, the fact that local governments are discussing this issue should be cause for concern for the thinking motorcyclist. Bloomberg may not be willing to discuss the issue now, but what happens if he changes his mind? Or if the city council brings it up with a more responsive successor? And while you may never leave your metropolitan area, there are lots of us who cross states and even countries on our bikes. For those people, the enforcement of laws in these "bedroom communities" could be a real concern if you should happen to pass through sporting non-legal equipment. You can accuse me of being an alarmist, but apparently HD and the AMA are pretty concerned about this issue as well. Are they being alarmist too, or do they see the writing on the wall? | ||
| Kdan |
Like the little helmet sticker says; "Loud Pipes Compensate For Small Penises". | ||
| Brineusaf |
there are lots of us who cross states and even countries on our bikes. For those people, the enforcement of laws in these "bedroom communities" could be a real concern if you should happen to pass through sporting non-legal equipment. Man was I waiting for that. You are a complete moron if you think we are really going to be concerned about our machines following guidelines. I've gone through a few countries, and have yet to be even questioned. If this was a serious issue as you make it out do be, then pipes would be limited to those who possess race licenses and race bikes (not that this would help). I've ridden in my country without a problem, I've ridden in other countries without a problem... actions speak louder than words. |
