| Author | Message | ||
     Ds_tiger |
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2006/Dec/061216a2.h tm Click on the link- Type in Buell or your favorite subject related to motorcycles and HAVE FUN! | ||
| Slaughter |
Cool. Easier and more complete than the government's at uspto.gov Buell DOES have a bunch of them! (even found a couple of mine there.) | ||
| Buellshyter |
You can find the same information directly from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office online. What I found interesting from past searches are Erik Buells' contributions to bicycles and mass transit. | ||
| Interex2050 |
that is simply amazing... Erik had some very interesting ideas for the XB... | ||
| Slaughter |
The US Patent and Trademark Office boolean logic search isn't as user friendly. Getting drawings doesn't always work so well either. http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html The Google system is cool I wonder how many of the other manufacturers might have gone forward with concepts if Buell hadn't beaten them to the punch!!?? | ||
| Spiderman |
Better Yet, Google has now added a patent search function... http://www.google.com/patents?q=erik+buell&btnG=Se arch+Patents | ||
| Djkaplan |
Hey! One of my patent applications made it. This is me from my last job... http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6339994&id= 4AEJAAAAEBAJ&dq=daniel+kaplan+thrall+car I have a few more that should be there somewhere... either as the principle or as "et al". You made my day with this thread!!!! | ||
| Djkaplan |
I'm a patented engineer! (and braggart).  | ||
| Barker |
Erik's sun powered bus!! | ||
| Jlnance |
I wonder how many of the other manufacturers might have gone forward with concepts if Buell hadn't beaten them to the punch! I've had similar thoughts, but in a slightly different direction. Motorcycles have been around over 100 years. It's insane that no one has done these things until now (specifically I'm thinking of the idler pulley.) I've no doubt Buell has great engineers, but so does everyone else. What Buell has that seems to be unique is the willingness to actually try new things. Particularly things that aren't on the top 10 list of the marketing department. | ||
| Old_man |
Motorcycles have been around over 100 years. It's insane that no one has done these things until now (specifically I'm thinking of the idler pulley.) Buell may hold a patent but i assure you idler pulleys were on many motorcycles long before Buell existed. | ||
| Anonymous |
The use of idler pulleys the way Buell does it has not existed before, old man, that's why we got a patent on it! | ||
| Jlnance |
The Details | ||
| Spiderman |
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| Old_man |
Anonymous I said Buell had the patent. The statement from Jlnance was that;{ Motorcycles have been around over 100 years. It's insane that no one has done these things until now (specifically I'm thinking of the idler pulley.) I had a dirt bike in the 70's with an idler pulley that was essentially the same as on the Buell, except it was for a chain not a belt. I don't doubt that Buell holds a patent but I stand by the fact that the idea and purpose is nothing new. Details may differ but the basic principle is the same. | ||
| Djkaplan |
Husqvarna had a fixed rolling block chain guide that kept the chain tension fairly constant throughout the rear suspension travel. It works exactly like the belt idler on an XB, except it used teflon blocks for the chain to ride on. I remember this from 1979. The concept of a simple, constant tension system isn't new; the adaptation of the idler to the idea is. | ||
| Davegess |
<details> The details are why it is patentable. I would assume the previous attempts have not been altogether successful and that is why they have not been universally adopted. | ||
| Old_man |
My bike had a turning idler sprocket, like on the Buell race bike. It was very successful at keeping a constant tension on the chain through the suspension travel. If the drive sprocket was centered on the swingarm pivot there would be no need for an idler. The closer the two are to each other, the longer the swingarm, and the shorter the suspension travel, the less an idler is required. The converse is also true. | ||
| Old_man |
I don't want to appear that I am disparaging Buell's excellent engineering. It is the reason I bought my Buell. I appalud every aspect of the motorcycle. I was only commenting on the statement by Jlnance that he couldn't believe that a good idea like the idler pulley hadn't been used before. I'm sure Buell must have something special about their design to get a patent, but the basic idea has been used successfully in the past. Again I state. THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING OF THE BUELL IS FIRST RATE AND BEYOND WHAT OTHERS ARE CURRENTLY DOING. I've shown that I believe this by spending my hard earned money on my Buell!! (Message edited by old man on December 18, 2006) | ||
| Borrowedbike |
OK. Found this a few years ago. It was posted om my office door for a while... http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6293874&id= XYYHAAAAEBAJ&dq=buttocks+kicking Engineering at it's finest | ||
| Djkaplan |
You're really taking the wind out my sails here, Paul... | ||
| Anonymous |
Not to argue unnecessarily, but there were some very unique attributes of the placement and design of the Buell idler wheel system on the XB. What Buell determined was exactly how to place the idler for any given diameter and rear suspension/belt line geometry to minimize belt tension changes -- to the extent that the belt stays preloaded throughout its travel. That was new and unique, hence the patent. The concept can work well with a chain as well. | ||
| Jaimec |
http://www.totallyabsurd.com/ |
