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Mcdusa1
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Am I Blind? How do I remove the rear wheel on my 2004 XB 12? How do I take the tension off the belt? It looks like the tensioner is in a fixed position.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Back off the axle. Opposite than normal. I believe 15 turns. The axle is tapered and the tension on the belt will ease then.
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Xbcrazy
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rear axle backs out normally, counter clockwise.

Front axle is reverse threaded and backs out clockwise.
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Make sure you loosen the pinch bolt on the underside first.
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get a service manual, well worth the money.
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tool for rear axle is in your stock tool kit. Easy jerb, but buy a FSM.
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Barker
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you replace dont forget anti-sieze lube on te axle
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The service manual is the best 52.20 you will ever spend if you work on your own bike.
Of course, I have them in stock!
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Agbuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What do you need to watch for when you put the wheel back on? I am taking it off to save money when I get my new tires mounted. Any suggestions, and I do not have a service manual as of right now so any details would help.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is very, very easy to remove both wheels on the XB.

You will need SAE size Allen wrenches for the axle nut pinch bolts. You will also need a torx screw driver. Finally, a large enough wrench for the rear axle AND a torque wrench. Very important when it's time to torque down the rear axle nut. Oh and a rear stand or a jack to raise the rear of the bike.

1) Remove the rear brake caliper AND its mounts from the swing arm. Lay it on top of the swing arm but off the rear disc brake.
2) Loosen the pinch bolt at the bottom of the axle nut.
3) Remove the upper, lower, and front belt covers. You will need to unscrew the right side of the chin spoiler to move it out of the way of the front belt covers.
4) Loosen the axle nut--15 turns or so and it will ease the belt tension.
5) Remove the tension pully. With the belt tension loose, it should slide off fairly easily.
6) Remove the belt from the main pulley wheel.
7) Keep turning the rear axle nut until it comes off the thread and while you balance the rear wheel with your foot to keep it level with the axle, pull the axle out completely. The wheel should easily come free.

Just reverse the procedure to put the wheel back.

Remember to clean the axle then put a bit of anti-seize in the axle threads when you put it back in. Also remember to put a small amount of blue Loctite on the screws (NOT the axle) when you put them back. Don't loose those clear plastic washers for the spoiler torx screws.
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Rasmonis
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've done this on both and '03 and an '06 just like Rogue_Bikes says but with less steps:

It is very, very easy to remove both wheels on the XB.

You will need SAE size Allen wrenches for the axle nut pinch bolts. You will also need a torx screw driver. Finally, a large enough wrench for the rear axle AND a torque wrench. Very important when it's time to torque down the rear axle nut. Oh and a rear stand or a jack to raise the rear of the bike, and a rubber mallet.

1) Remove the rear brake caliper AND its mounts from the swing arm. Lay it on top of the swing arm but off the rear disc brake.
2) Loosen the pinch bolt at the bottom of the axle nut.
3) Loosen the axle nut--15 turns or so and it will ease the belt tension.

Important!!! Keep an eye on your swing arm while you loosen the axle. If it has been a while, there is debris around the axle or corrosion, when you loosen the axle it may spread your swing arm.

You will know this is happening because the axle will loosen, but you will not see the threads on the axle nut coming out.

Tap the axle (on the brake side) with a mallet after every few turns until the axle is completely loose (the wheel will slide forward slightly because the axle is tapered).

4) Remove the belt from the main pulley wheel.
5) Keep turning the rear axle nut until it comes off the thread and while you balance the rear wheel with your foot to keep it level with the axle, pull the axle out completely. The wheel should easily come free.

Just reverse the procedure to put the wheel back.

Remember to clean the axle then put a bit of anti-seize in the axle threads when you put it back in.
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i just bought a rear tire off of ebay and will be doing the wheel removal myself also...thanks for the info guys. every dollar saved equals about 25 miles worth of gas for the buell.

brad
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Neb25
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rasmonis,

Are you able to remove your rear wheel without removing the idler pully?
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Brineusaf
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just took mine off last night, so while my mind is still fresh:

This is what I did:
Removed Sliders
Loosen pinch bolt
Put up on stands
Place wood under tire to support it when you remove axle
Remove Caliper, and zip-tie out of the way
Remove belt guards
Loosen/Remove Axle (wheel staying there because of wood shims)
Push wheel forward to remove belt from rear pulley
Pull wheel back slowly avoiding roughing up the now disconnected belt
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I removed the rear wheel on my Uly without removing any of the belt guards or the idler.

Place floor jack under touratech skid plate.
Lift until load is off rear wheel.
Remove two caliper bracket bolts.
Remove axle pinch bolt.
Remove axle from wheel and swingarm.
Raise jack 1".
Slide off belt and roll out wheel.
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Mcdusa1
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What size is the axle nut?? It is bigger then allan head I have What direction do I turn the axle clock or counter. How the heck can the axle move forward by turning the rear axle? What is the torque specs on the axle? My service manual should be hear next week. I need to take it off tonight I don't want to miss this week end ride. Dunlops 208s (Suck) 1500 miles on the rear. (sorry about the language) going to Z6 Thanks for your help
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Whatever2
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look in your tool kit for a hex nut looking thing with an e-clip on it. this is the tool when combined with a socket and ratchet or a wrench you can use to loosen the axle. The rear axle loosens counter clockwise. Once the axle is removed belt tension is no longer a problem. See above.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mcdusa1
I just saw you ordered the manual from us.
Didn't talk to me for some reason when you called
Anyway,
Here is what UPS is saying
Status: In Transit - On Time
Scheduled Delivery: 11/13/2006


Next time, please ask for Dave in the sales dept.

Thanks for the order!
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Rasmonis
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Neb25,

No, you do not have to remove the idler pulley. Once you have the axle out (not off), the wheel will slide forward enough for you to remove the belt of the rear sprocket.


Removing a rear tire is wicked easy and should take no longer than 5-10 minutes. If it's too hard or you're having difficulty, step back and think about what you're doing. Make sure you are using a rear stand or the bike is secure.
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Rasmonis
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mcdusa1:

The wheel slides forwards because the axle is tapered. It is wider in circumference at the ends than it is in the middle. Once the ends clear their receivers you gain about .5"-1" (someone here has to know exactly how much) of room for the wheel to slide forward. However much it is, it's enough to easily remove the belt and wheel without having to remove the belt guards or the belt tensioner thingy.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not like the belt guards are "brain surgery" to remove. IF you want to MAKE SURE you don't damage the belt in ANY WAY, best be safe than sorry.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The belt guards are held by two torx screws each.

Doesn't take much effort to remove and it sure makes easier for the belt to come off the rear pulley.

Remember, the belt doesn't like to get twisted or kinked. Why stress it if you don't have to?

(Message edited by rogue_biker on November 11, 2006)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)









You're welcome.
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Mcdusa1
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help. I did not have the 7/8} axle tool in my tool kit it was missing. My local dealer did not have one but it is on the way. I found a 7/8 hex head cold chisel and cut about 3" off the end and The fit was cherry. Thanks for the response. The wheel is removed and installed in about 10 min. The tension is released when the wheel falls off the tapered axle
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Brineusaf
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also, if you didn't have the tool, you could have just used a spark plug socket (the end is hex'ed) and then "plug-into" that with an extension from the opposite side. Awesome for torquing as well.
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