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Re5rotary
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 05:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi I have just tried to fit the race kit muffler to my 2003 XB9R and when all bolted up the RH muffler outlet all but touches the belt idler pulley. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong. I have searched the archives but cant find any mention of this

regards terry
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Rich
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is very close, but doesn't hit.
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147db
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The MY02/MY03 Pro Series muffler (at least without a little modification) doesn't fit on the MY04/05/06/07 XB due the different belt... Maybe your Firebolt is a MY04 purchased at the end of 2003?
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Mikexlr650
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they do sit very tight. mine's been that way for a long time , no problem as long as there isn't any contact.
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you have the upgraded belt?

If so you need a 12 muffler, the 04 belt and pulley are just a little lower and hit the 03 9 muffler outlet. The 03 9 muffler is shorter than the 12.

I have a 04 12R with a 03 9 muffler and had to modify the outlet to fit.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not an XB9 vs XB12 muffler issue, it's an 03 vs 04 or later XB race muffler. Of course, all 03 race mufflers WERE XB9 race mufflers since there were no XB12s.

You must have the 04 or later belt drive on the bike for it to be hitting.

Al
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Thespive
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '06 has the early race kit muffler. The parts people sent me the only one they had left and it turned out to be wrong, so instead of messing with sending it back, I installed it. Work fine. There was some pulley contact going down the road, and it put like a 1/32-inch little gouge in the can and doesn't hit anymore. No problems since.

--Sean
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Re5rotary
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh that explains the problem then I have a kit for the 03 but I have the 04 belt, idler and sprockets fitted. Rats never thought of that. I think putting a spacer between the muffler and the rear 1/2 moon mount will solve the problem. Thanks guys Terry
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dremel it.
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Re5rotary
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 05:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi I fitted a 2mm spacer under the mount but the pulley still hit. A couple of well placed taps with a ball pien hammer soon made clearance however. With the paint touched up and the pulley on it cant be seen anyway. Problem is I must be getting too old as I think the race muffler is a bit too loud for me. Terry
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147db
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The spacer is not a good idea, I think... A final solution is to make a dent on the muffler, under the idler pulley, like this:




Others pics on these URLs:
http://www.147db.com/tech/PA220025.jpg
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http://www.147db.com/tech/PA220027.jpg
http://www.147db.com/tech/PA220028.jpg
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Rich
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loosen the muffler, put a 1/8 inch piece of "something" between the muffler and the pulley, retighten.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loosen the muffler, put a 1/8 inch piece of "something" between the muffler and the pulley, retighten.

DO NOT use the muffler straps in such a manner!

They are designed for holding and no other un-implied force.

The bands are only spotwelded in 3 or 4 places and are made of stainless steel.

Using the straps like that could cause the straps to snap.
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New12r
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RE5, just what I had to do to get mine to fit.
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Docktor
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stuff em,. Just get some heat shield tape and fold it over and slap it up top mate. It will pull the muffler down enough to clear th pulley. Happens to most Buells...

Doc
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147db
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm still for the "dent practice"... another pic:





;)
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Lenb
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I fitted an 03 muffler to my 06 XB12R. I had the same problem - very frustrating - I kept thinking it was something I was doing wrong. When I found out what the problem was (thanks to this forum) I had the outlets cut off and rewelded at more of a downturned angle. I had to respray the muffler but that was okay as I bought it second-hand anyway.
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