| Author | Message | ||
     Pillsburyroll |
Hey guys. Had a few qiestions. First, i havnt bought my bike yet. I'm leaving for Iraq soon and i'm going to have to wait till i come home. But, my question is, is it worth spending the money on a Buell rather than a crap Jap bike? I know the handeling is better and has more torque. But will it be rider friendly, easy mantinance, or reliable? Its going to me my first bike ever. I'm not worries about it because i grew up owning my own dirtbikes, and my uncle had a CBR600 that i got on and went around the block a few times on, but probably never went past 50. So its going to be somthing new for me. Its a 1200cc, but does it ride like one? I'm interested in the Lighting XB12Scg. Its kinda badass...lol | ||
| Jimduncan69 |
my xb12scg is my first bike. you will be fine if you ride it with respect. i am very happy with mine and i cant imagine riding any other bike. | ||
| Daves |
First off, Thank you for your service for our country. Check into the Military Sales deal for service people stationed overseas. That way the bike can be waiting at the dealer of your choice for you to return. | ||
| Jaimec |
I'd just like to point out that there is no such thing as a "Crap Jap Bike." Get that idea out of your head. "Crap Russian Bike" (Ural) or "Crap Indian Bike" (Royal Enfield) I would understand, but the Japanese haven't built crap bikes in over twenty years. Welcome to the 21st Century. | ||
| Glitch |
But will it be rider friendly, easy mantinance, or reliable? Rider friendly, you bet. After you get it set up for you, it'll make you a better rider, mine did me. Easy maintenance, sure is, no valve adjustments, just make sure you follow regular maintenance. Also if you ever have to work on the bike, you'll have a hard time finding a more simple engine to work on. Reliable, mine has over 47,000 miles and has been almost trouble free. I did use Mobil1 in the primary and burt a stator at 20,000, and after finding out about the Mobil1 issue changed to the recommended H-D oil, but it was too late, second burt stator I'm replacing this weekend. So all and all, two stators in 47,000 miles ain't bad, and who knows, had I known about Mobil1 I may not have burnt either one. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for heading the call to duty.  | ||
| Eboos |
Ooh rah Marine! Don't sweat a 1200 being your first bike. My M2 was my first (and only so far) bike, I just did a lot of reading before I got it. With your dirtbike experiance, you should have learned throttle control, shifting, and brake control, now it is a matter of using what you have already learned on the street. Use your head, and do some reading in your downtime while you are away. Here is my recommended reading list: Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough Total Control by Lee Parks Twist of the Wrist 1 and 2 by Keith Code When you get back, sign yourself up for a MSF course. Save up some cash and invest in proper gear as well. Think of the course and the gear as MOS training and a flak jacket and helmet for motorcyclists, you wouldn't want to be without them. Stay safe, stay motivated, and return with honor. | ||
| Lighninginthesky |
I have the Lighting XB12Scg. I'm a short legged 5'7 and found the Scg fit and felt like nothing else. If you're sure you want the Scg order it through AAFES. If not, come home, sit and test a few bikes of all makes. It's allot of money to find another make or model would have been better. You don't even need to own a bike yet to take the motorcycle safety course and that could change your perspective. You'll need to do that anyway. I love my Scg and have no regrets. Just some thoughts | ||
| Angelwild327 |
Pills...the scg is my first bike ever (well, second buell, but that was the city cross - too tall)...no problems with power as long as you're using your brain and not your ego when you ride.. I love the rawness of the lightning as opposed to the racy firebolt... You'll love it, it's worth every penny... good luck over there and thanks for all you do! | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Jaimec said...>>>>>I'd just like to point out that there is no such thing as a "Crap Jap Bike." Get that idea out of your head. "Crap Russian Bike" (Ural) or "Crap Indian Bike" (Royal Enfield) I would understand,<<<<< I dunno ...see. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/230750.html?1159749818 Royal Enfield may be ok after all…. (Message edited by johnnylunchbox on October 07, 2006) | ||
| Pmpski_1 |
I saw a Buell one time and decided that I wanted one. I rode dirt bikes as a kid, but I was new to street riding. I bought a 74 Honda CB550, took the MSF course, learned how to fix the bike, then learned how to ride it. Even though I wanted a Buell my finances didn't provide for it. Also, I figured that if I wrecked or dropped the old Honda it wouldn't hurt as bad as doing the same to a new Buell. It's been 2 years since I bought the Honda and I took a test ride on an XB9S today. Needless to say, I'm buying it. It's a completely different experience than the Honda. I was amazed at how different. Of course it was only a test ride, but I think it would have been ok for a first bike. You'll probably be fine with one. Stay out of harms way! | ||
| Cadhopper |
I saw a Buell one time and decided that I wanted one Thats all it took for me. Use your head and ride within your limits and you will be fine. The bike WILL not be as fast as an inline four but in opinion it's a lot more fun. I've gone through 6 bikes in the last 1 1/2 years and this one is a keeper. I'm 5'6" and ride a XB12SS with no trouble because the center of gravity is so low on these bikes. Keep your head down, stay safe and thanks for serving your country. PS: When you get back to the world, if your near Quantico, give me a shout and I can show you some nice roads to ride. | ||
| Bueaddicted |
All it took for me to decide that I wanted a Buell was a video with a 9R vs a Ducati in England... now I own a 12R and I couldn't be happier!  Here's a link to the clip: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4594234857564649625&q=buell&hl=en | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
Hey thanks guys. Everything been noting but helpful. Its decided then, i'm getting one . And thanks for the support. P.S. I'm from Columbus, Ohio. When i come home and actually buy the bike, I'll have about a month to be home. I want to try and find a Club near me. Is there a Official web site that shows all the different clubs? Or if anyone is from Columbus know of any? Thanks again guys. Dont thank me for doing anything! P.P.S. and there are such things as Crap Jap bikes...who gives a damn about russian bikes...and...you dont have to be a complete a$$hole about it. Now...welcome to the 21st century Marines Corps. Ooh Rah sucker | ||
| Ulywife |
Pillsbury - Check out Storm Fronts - Ohio, Columbus area. Thanks for your service and be safe. (Message edited by Ulywife on October 12, 2006) | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Pills....I am in columbus....the club is still forming. The guys posting in that thread have not come to the meetings or rides so I am not sure whats up.....The guys forming it is wolfsridge rider..... Just for the record....as much as we luv our buells they cannot hang with the current crop of liter bikes. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Pillsbury- try ordering one downrange at ENCS (i bought mine thru them, as did samiam) They might be able to have it waiting at you neighborhood dealership when you return from your tour. | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
i'll look up ENCS. Just for the record....as much as we luv our buells they cannot hang with the current crop of liter bikes. I understand they arnt as fast. Thats not what appeals to me. Its the style, the comfort, the sound, and comunity. All around makes it a better bike. But i understand your point. Thanks again guys. I know where to go now to get help. You guys rule. Thanks again andnif i have anymore questions i know where to go! | ||
| Jaimec |
Kinda what I tell people. If you're looking for a bike to make up for "other inadequacies," then the Buell probably isn't for you. Go for a Suzuki Hayabusa or Kawasaki ZX-14. If you're perfectly satisfied with your equipment, then go ahead and get the Buell, you won't be sorry! | ||
| Eboos |
Buy a Hummer to get a hummer. | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
So Pills you in town..... or out and about. | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
i'm always in town | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
Are there any good videos? Not DVD's but thorugh youtube, or streetfire.net, just any web site? Doesnt really have to be JUST Buells, but a site kinda dedicated to bikes (Still would be awesome if they had Buell videos). | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Look in stormfronts under 3%er's they have some really great videos | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
Stormfronts? | ||
| Tx05xb12s |
Hey doughboy. My first roadbike was my current XB12Scg after growing up riding a Honda CR125 on dirt trails and then taking a Riders Edge beginners course. As long as you have a little respect for the bike's power until your experience level matures you'll be OK. I would highly recommend you make your first purchases the best and as much safety gear as you can afford. Bear in mind though that you need to use your head and not your ego as a new rider (as one of our fellow Buelligans pointed out above). I had a coworker that after a year of drooling all over my Buell and asking a million questions finally got himself a Sportster three months ago. He died on I-10E just west of Livingston, TX at 21:45 on 10Sept2006. I'm not trying to turn you off, but you need to realize the magnitude of what you're getting into. Anyway, be safe over there soldier. I myself spent six years toting a weapon for Uncle Sugar too. You'll have opportunities to drop in on us here while you're there, so we'll look for ya. | ||
| Ulywife |
Stormfronts? Once you connect to BadWeb and see the list of different sections, Storm Fronts is listed there. Storm Fronts are local riding groups. The 3%er's are from GA and a great group of people! | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
ok, now i might be getting a little ahead of myself, but. As for the bike mods themselves. Are there companies that mainly make products like the tail section, ect...for Buell only? I'm kind of getting a price list down for what i need/want. One company stand out more then any other? | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
Thanks for the mind check Tx05xb12s. P.S. I'm a Marine, not a soldier kiddin lol. I'm glad you made your decision of going to the Military. I should be the one in here saying thanks to you. Men like you make the paths for us young, dumb, full of "Man Juice", kids that forget what manners are. I'm Nick, and thanks for giving me the oportunity to live in a country as fine as this one. But i forgive you calling me a soldier, Army guys like you do as much as it takes to be as equal as a Marine, even if you have to go so low as calling us Soldiers lol i'm joking. Thanks really, and be ready for a million more questions! | ||
| Brineusaf |
http://www.encs.com/ | ||
| Brineusaf |
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| Pillsburyroll |
well i have to find out whats going on before i start buying shit. I'm only being deployed if they need me. Marines are talking about why they should slow down deployments. I dont know when i get over there, if i'll even be allowed to get a motorcycle. I'll just keep the info. | ||
| Brineusaf |
Marines are talking about why they should slow down deployments. Haven't seen any of this... in fact, I've seen more marine and army troops moving in recent times. I dont know when i get over there, if i'll even be allowed to get a motorcycle It's just a store outside of the BX/PX. You aren't going to be riding one off the showroom. If you buy one, it will be shipped to the dealer of your choice. | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
oh i get what your saying. At first i didnt really understand the concept behind what it was about. To make sure, its a stor off base OVER seas that ship bikes BACK to the US to anywhere you want, correct? That info is not from any new sorce in fact its just word of mouth from a Gunny. Thats my source of info. Sorry, should of clarified that. | ||
| Mortarmanmike120 |
No, but you are close. Every FOB of any size in Iraq and Afganistan has one. It is a store next to the PX, or in the PX. When you order the bike, the order is sent home to the dealership. The bike is sent to the dealership and is waiting for you when you deMOB. The only reason you could not order one overseas is that you are never stationed at a major FOB or LSA. Actually that's not true since you could even do it in Kuwait although your time there will be limited. I decided not to go that route while I was over there. Mostly because I wasn't exactly sure what bike I wanted and wasn't willing to buy a bike unseen without having a chance to at least SIT on it. If you have a clear idea of exactly which model you want then it may be a good idea buy while overseas. Otherwise, I'd sock all that fun combat pay away while you're gone and then buy the bike of your dreams when you get home and are still hungover from the welcome home party. Plus it's fun to dream about the bike you are going to get when you get home. Just my unsolicited advise. Good luck, stay sharp, watch your brothers back, and get home safely so we can go ridin' together. | ||
| Mfarrell2k3 |
The military sales program is excellent. Especially if you hit it when the new bikes come out at the end of the year. They actually have rebates based on model off of the already low military price. The bike is never actually overseas. I bought a 2004 Heritage Softail on the program back in Feb/Mar of 2005. I picked it up when i came home on leave in May. The local dealer had it waiting for me the day I flew in. I ended up getting a carb. 2 tone Herritage Softail for 15120. Only had to pay tax and title to register it with DMV. Still that bike new would have ended up around 18-19K. The salesman I dealt with and the dealer were excelent. As I was not around an exchage I went through the military sales rep in Germany and did most of it via email, and some over the phone. Just need orders putting you overseas for at least 90 days I believe, however I was there for a year so no problem! LOL Any ?s about my experience with it, feel free to email me | ||
| Mfarrell2k3 |
also where are you stationed? LeJeune? Im down in Wilmington NC with the Coast Guard, drop me an email if you have any ?s mfarrell2k3@aol.com | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
I have no idea where i will be stationed. I actually leave Monday/30th for boot. Most likely i'm gonna be heading over seas. At lease 7 months. But what should i do when i come home? I mean with down payments and shit. I'm the type of guy, when i come back from fighting, i'll spend all my money on toys. So should i put a larger down payment down then i first intended to. I was gonna do about a 2K down but maybe i should go with maybe 5K? (I have money saves up already. About 3K (2.8K)). I know this isnt much to do with bikes but more to do with financial shit. I have a car but i put 0 down...and kinda wished i hadn't maybe. So what do you think? XB12Scg is what? 10,600 roughly. Advice anyone? I'll make around 1400 after my tour. I'm getting out of boot a PFC (got 2 recruites to sign with me lol). Then MAYBE pick up LC after my tour. Is it smart to put a larger Down Payment, while i have the money, is my question. | ||
| Jackbequick |
If it is about finances, the smartest thing to do is to waste as little of your money as possible on paying interest and finance charges. There is a dangerous state of mind that happens when you are saving towards a major purchase. That is the point when saving money seems to be happening so slowly that you give up and use what you have as a down payment. In 18 months or two years, you'll probably have your tour behind you, you'll be older and smarter, and you'll be a much more different person. Wait until then, build your savings, and then decide on the bikes that are new then. Don't buy now and let it set for most of the next year or two as you go through training and schools. "..Is it smart to put a larger Down Payment, while i have the money, is my question..." I vote no. Smart is stashing the cash and waiting until the time when you can buy from the newer models and also get a fair amount of time on the bike. And if you get around the wrong kind of salesman, he'll convince you that you need to buy now. And that he is your best friend and doing you a favor. But, in reality, he is encumbering your personal finances for his personal gain. That's his job. Some more "grandfatherly" advice. Too much credit is easy for young service people to get because they have assured incomes. also their wages can be easily "attached" if they get in too deep and quit paying the bill. Your chain of command will give your pay to someone else if the debt is valid. Thank you for being willing to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces! I wish you the best of luck in what will be one of the most rewarding experiences in your life. Jack I put 26 years in the Navy, I've seen all the mistakes and made some of them myself. :>  | ||
| Pillsburyroll |
alright, that clears up what i dont know. Well thanks guys. I'm off to bootcamp tomrrow around 11-12. I'll see ya'll in three months. What i was thinking though is that its hard for a kid my age (21) to be financed with a decent APR %. Its gonna be higher then my own age. It would take more of a down payment then saying 0 down they might want me to put 2-3K down. So thats also a posibility right? But i did hear about a thing harly has, called somthing like first time fincance blah blah. Where they let younger kids like me be financed THROUGH HD and their cedit union. Lower APR %, but still probably 15-20 percent. But anyways, i'll see what you say in 3 months. Your right too, it would be dumb to go and buy the bike after boot because my MOS is 03 grunt. So i'm going STRAIGHT over to Iraq. Might as well get my 7 months in get out and live like a rich man!!! |
