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Billybob
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what do you all think of d&d exhaust it seems to be a lot for a exhaust.
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Buellman39
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

loud loud loud. power band kicks in late, no bottom end.
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Wammy
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you'll love it more than the bitch who lives next to you, specially in the early morning hours.

that's my case
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Navygunner
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I personally like it. There are better pipes as far as peak HP numbers. But for mid range torque(Were I personally ride) It is the king. Plus it sounds and looks cool. Plus the flat under belly makes it easy to jack up.


Patrick
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Buelltroll
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I LOVE mine.
People say it has no bottom end but I dunno WHY ANYONE wants to ride around at 2500 rpm anyway.
It's got TONS of kick right in the meat of the revs right were corner strafing and knee dragging is fun.
Ever tried that at 35 mph?(its MUCH more fun at 70-80)

(Message edited by buelltroll on October 06, 2006)
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Daves
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have sold many of them over the years.
Great,sturdy constuction,built in chin fairing brackets,great sound,great mid-range power.
I sell them for 536.36
I have them in stock.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave,

Are you Big Brother's Little Brother?

You are omnipotent! (And you always have a price list handy!)
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Daves
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know those off the top of my head.
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are a bit rust prone. I just had to strip and repaint the elbow on mine. Other then that, I like it.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Billybob,
For a M2 they are only about 360.00 or so.
I did not check your profile before I answered. Sorry about that.
Everything else I said is true for a M2 muffler except the chin fairing mounts since the M2 doesn't have one.
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Billybob
Posted on Friday, October 06, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey dave I got a 06 cityx i want the d&d for do they work good on that bike
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Dtx
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Billybob,

I have one on my XB9SX...it works good.

Especially the mid-range punch at 4000rpm!
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Billy,
Yes, and those are the ones I have in stock.
I put the D+D,race ecm and Buell race air filters on my wife's and Mother in law's bikes and they run great. They both ride XB9S bikes.
The D+D is a good all around pipe for the street and backroads riding.
The sound is the best sounding to me(short of a FORCE pipe).
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Aatch
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

daves - can those 9's run without the race ecm and filter?
i thought i wanted a drummer or a spec ops, but you saying that D+D is the best sounding pipe throws yet another wrench in my decision making...
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

as long as you leave the air filter alone. Stock filter,stock airbox,no extra holes,no open airbox mods, then yes you can run just the pipe and most likely be ok.
Many have done this with no ill effects.
I would not, but that's just me.
The D+D responds best to better breathing intake too.
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Billybob
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what do you all think of the drummer?
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had both they are both good in there own area's. The Drummer though is a more solid performing pipe across its whole power band.
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Sinatra
Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i get comments from sportbikers to harley "dudes" everytime i go riding...everybody is looking around for that sound...ive actually had the local buell dealership tell me its the best buell they ever heard....apparantly they never heard a force...as for the performance, the bike out performs me 5 to 1 so i guess i just love the sound....it turns heads for certain....i have some sound clips somehwere i can post up if you like or i can email them to you...pm me..

(Message edited by sinatra on October 08, 2006)
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Buellish0
Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey jett hott will take care of that rust prob whats sup dave!!
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Cecil1
Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How much does it cost to get the header Jett Hott coated?

Tim
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Daves
Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Drummer is an excellent pipe also.
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Nick
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get a Jardine! That was the funniest thing. The guy next door had a VTR1000 with twin loud pipes. He loved it, I said it was a little loud. He said you can't have a bike too loud.......until I got the Jardine. It drove him mad! It was even too loud with earplugs in so I sold it, but it was great fun for a few weeks! I need a new can now but don't want to break my original to turn it into a drummer.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jet-Hot quoted me..

The price to coat the 2to1 header , in&out with the sterling silver finish, is $120+s&h back. The 10% discount has been locked in, your reference number is


Directly from the email I received. I am currently awaiting an updated form (due to some communication problems) before I tear mine off and send it in.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

160 +s/h if you want the header and muffler done (sterling)
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Danman2540
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you HAVE to drop the engine to remove the Header?
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Docktor
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

danman,In short yes you have to drop the engine,long story, no you dont but its more trouble than its worth. Its not hard at all.I would reccommend removing the 02 sensor before unbolting the pipes as its pretty tight in hard to undo after the headers are free.On mine (04 model) that was the case.

Doc
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Danman2540, I think on the xb9 you can go through the rear shock/fan and remove it that way ,BUT on the 12 you have to rotate the engine down for sure, BUT as Docktor said its really not that bad of a job to rotate it down really....
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Nlegrett
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Best pipe (slip-on) for the money - Jardine
Nice chrome look
LOUD - sounds like a cannon
Great power throughout!!
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Danman2540
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the input, I was thinking about the shiny coated header over the winter. Does anyone know if it can be done for sure through the fan hole, even if it does take a little longer? if so I'd rather not drop the engine. thanks
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Wardog3187
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that you can do it through the fan hole but you will have to remove the shock. I just rotated the engine to get to the back. It looks intimidating, but it's actually fairly easy when you get into it.
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Docktor
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Danman , seriously, dont even try goin thru the seat/fan. .
find the aluminium engine stays, 1 at front , 1 of lhs of bike and 1 under fram near rear engine cylinder, undo them, drop oil cooler, dont remove oil lines, slap a jack under it and remove the front engine mount, thats the big nut under the head stem. Might be something I missed, I not sure, done it so many times I have lost count when I was doin the turbo on mine. but just lower the jack and listen and look for hookups. I still recommend removing the 02 sensor as you need to drop the engine what I call an excessive amount to manouver the pipes out with it on. I only drop it til i can reach the rear cylinder top exhaust bolt.When I re made my pipes I moved the 02 sensor to halfway down the pipe so it wouldnt be a hassle anymore. I dont see why you cant move it on stock pipes really either.With my amazing photoshop skills I circled it for you. : )

Doc
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Docktor
Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Samiam
Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't have a comparison of two Buells with Drummer or D&D but I do have a video of my 12R and a friend's 12R with two different setups (we had just installed the Jardine on his):

Mine (front) has:
American Sport Bike open airbox
K&N filter
Directlink ECM map
Micron serpent exhaust

His (rear) has:
K&N filter
stock airbox
stock ECM
Jardine

Here's the video

Sam
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