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Trac95ker
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 02:16 am: | 
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I wouldn't worry about compressing the forks. That just adds one more thing to distract you from more important things like covering the brake and RPM/clutch. Try this, find a crest in the road, something that would get you airborne if you were going to fast. Ride over it in second gear around 4500 rpm. Sit back on the seat and wack the throttle as you pull up on the bars. It should come up under power. Remember to cover the brake and make sure the road is straight after the crest. It's a good way to get a feel for it. |
Josh52
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 03:46 am: |
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SOMETIMES I CLUTCH IT but most of the time i shift from 1st to 2nd then to third in the air and ride till i run out of road and sometimes i just put one foot on the passenger peg and my other knee on the seat either way sitting or kneeing standing up you can ride it for ever depending how fast u want to go 35 40 0r 75 80 |
Brineusaf
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 06:04 am: |
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"plugged" - "f*&ked"
by the dealership for something that takes not but a few moments. |
Shea
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 07:01 am: |
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I am going to see if Patrick, the tech that worked on my bike before, is able to reset the TPS and do the other stuff at the local shop first. I would like ot meet the guys at Lancaster, sound like a good group of guys, but would like to try and save the trip. I think Patrick said he was going to be moving out of state with his wife though, but not sure when he said he was moving, so hope he's still around. |
Xb12rdude
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 04:11 pm: |
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If I had a dollar for every bike I've hopped on to prove it can wheelie and nothings wrong with..........well, I would be rich. I would bet my house there is nothing wrong with your bike. I have friends who can't get a wheelie on their 150hp rice burners. It's about practice and balls. It took me about 3 weeks to really get second gear standups down to where I can ride them for miles and I've been riding them on rice burners for 6 years. So, remember it takes time. It's like any learned skill or sport. Keep practicing. It's a very good idea to ride with someone who already wheelies to offer advice. |
Toona
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 04:55 pm: |
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hehehe, I had a demo 9 up in second gear during a test ride  , it's was a little different than my 12 (less torque on the 9), but still came up easily. |
Shea
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 05:58 pm: |
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Xb12rdude,
I have a huge power loss in midrange, are you still willing to bet your house nothing is wrong with my bike?
Man, I am sorry I started this thread. No one seems to be reading the part I said I am having obvious engine problems. |
The_new_guy
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 07:01 pm: |
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Just a shot in the dark but is your interactive exhaust valve working properly? |
Shea
| | Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:35 pm: |
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New guy, yes, it's working properly. I took off the air box cover and took it for a ride and tested it and make sure the cable was running smoothly. Then I got home, pulled on the cable and the exhaust note changed, telling me it was moving.
As far as mechanical, everything seems to be working properly. |
Oldguycityx
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 11:11 am: |
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Shea,
I've heard good things about White's in Lebanon and their sister shop Iron Valley above Manheim concerning Buell work. My only first hand experience has been my 1,000 mile service at IV, which went fine, but not really a lot to judge them by. One of the main sales guys at IV, (Dave I think), used to race Buells. I will use them again for anything I don't want to attempt myself. |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |
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Shea, I feel your pain.. my 12 is pretty sluggish too. |
Buellman39
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 01:03 pm: |
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Shea and Oldguycitx, if you need help with any performance stuff drop me an email. I live in Lititz and have done all the basic mods (see my profile) I have had the bike dynoed at lancaster harley to tune the fuel injection in. And yes mine does nice wheelies. I purchased my bike from dave at iron valley and they used to race a XB12R untill dave crashed last year and broke his pelvis. |
Adrenaline0210
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 01:21 pm: |
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ive been riding my 03' xb9s for 1 yr now, bought it used. Had a 05' zzr600 before this bike, let me tell ya i couldnt weelie that thing for nothing... friend jumped on and stand up 2nd no prob... its alot rider, u either have the commitment to progress or u dont... upon getting my buell i was able to do power 1st to 2nd weelies... after a while i got my right foot on the passenger peg clutching 2nd around 3500rpms and it comes right up no problem. Where other kids have goten on my bike and who are far better weeliers than me and said no way, they got it up about 3"... its all getting useto ur bike and getting useto the rythem... i hadnt ridden in 2 weeks and got on my bike and couldnt get it up for the life of me all day, that night got it up no problem, just had to get useto it again. I have a huge gap and popping and chugging between 3-4k rpms due to jardine and race ecm without direct link and luckily by the time its up im arund 4200 rpms and i can ride for at least a mile or so... just be patient and learn the bike and where it wants to be your friend and work for u... 3500 rpms on mine seems to do the trick good. Im running dirtbike handlebars wich helmed imensly on balance and stance too |
Shea
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 04:19 pm: |
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Buellman, I was told they might not be able to tune mine due to having a Drummer because it;s custom.
Should I just request they try? |
Glitch
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 05:26 pm: |
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If the Drummer is keeping them from servicing your bike, I'd suggest another service center. |
Shea
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 07:41 pm: |
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I think what they meant was that they have tunes for different manufacturers, but a custom pipe may give them difficulty because they don't have a "set" tune for it.
I have to go further to find another place with a dyno. Want to just make sure they can't/won't before I go further away. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:36 pm: |
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The Drummer was special built to be in tune with the Buell Race ECM.
No need for any dyno tuning, it's already done.
Kevin built the Drummer to be in tune, that's one of the reasons for it's popularity.
Brian Gardner (BuckinFubba), and Kevin Drum (Kds1) spent hours and hours, days and weeks on end, tuning the pipe to the Buell Race ECM, unlike other pipes that need the ECM tuned to them for maximum performance. |
Shea
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 09:19 pm: |
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I have the Econo Drummer, bud. Still uses the active valve system and should be working on my stock ECM. Kevin told me that my problem is unusual, so I am guessing that it's something to do with one of the above; Leaks, TPS etc. If not, a race ECM will defeat the valve and cause it to stay closed...or is it open? I always forget.
(Message edited by Shea on September 25, 2006) |
Shea
| | Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 09:22 pm: |
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Also, if the shop checks all of this and for some reason cannot tune it, I will contact Kevin again. He's awsome to talk to and is always willing to help and give advice. His customer service is unrivaled. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 05:24 am: |
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Bud? |
Buellman39
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 07:35 am: |
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Shea, email me and i will help you out. I will give you my phone number and you can call me to discuss. |
Fullpower
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 01:11 pm: |
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I can ride second gear wheelies on my sons XR80. that doesnt make my 1203 cc Buell run any better. |
Elff
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 02:49 pm: |
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Just for the record, I bought my current bike [XB12R] at Lancaster HD. There is a guy by the name of Steve who works there who knows his buells inside and out. I am positive he could help you out. Im really happy with this dealership. They even have a decent area of Buell logo merchandise. Shirts, sunglasses, hats..... Makes you feel good about owning a buell |
Shea
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 04:09 pm: |
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Glitch, sorry, I called you bud, as in "buddy", just being friendly.
Elff, that is who I dealt with. Hell of a nice guy. Check out my thread I started in this forum about my experience there. |
Elff
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 04:18 pm: |
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Do u have a linky to the thread?
Id like to add my positive input. Ive been meaning to start one myself but never got around to it. |
Shea
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 04:27 pm: |
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http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/230171.html?1159301171 |
Punkid8888
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 08:12 pm: |
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Hey I too have been trying to wheelie and looking for a little advise. although I will say that I feel my bike will wheelie without a doubt it is just getting me to have a enough nerve and stop closing the throttle as soon as I feel the tire go up.
I have been using the clutch method as it seams less abusive then rolling off and on the throttle. That and I have not been able to get the tire up much with that method.
my question is how every "slips" their clutch. I have been running in 2nd between 3700 and 4000 thousand I pull in the clutch just enough to disengage it then rev to about 5500 to 6000 (hard to tell) and just about let go of the clutch. the best way I can describe it is I let it slide off my finger tips so basically I am letting the clutch out about as fast as possible without just letting go completey (side stepping car terms).
depending on my nerve and how much I let it rev up I can either just pop the front end a few inches or get it up over a foot a 2 where instinct takes over and I release the throttle.
I was wondering what other do with their clutch, and if their was away to be more consistent or does that just come with practice and confiedence
also 06 XB9SX bone stock |
Isham
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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I have been using the clutch method as it seams less abusive then rolling off and on the throttle. That and I have not been able to get the tire up much with that method.
Logic tells me that clutching seems more abusive. |
Punkid8888
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 09:26 am: |
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I see it as the clutch is a wear item, if I use it for wheelies or when lunching hard at the track I might shorten the life but being designed to wear and be replaced I am not worried. rolling on and off the throttle to me seams that you put slack in your entire drive train, all gears that are meshing and both the primary chain and drive belt, you then wack the throttle to wide open and slapping everything back in to tension. to me that is hard on many more components that are more exspensive and harder to replace. But regardless which is better I was wondering on others method of using the clutch |
New12r
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 01:05 pm: |
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Cluthin is the only way, just ask a stunter, I only clutch my wheelies and will until I die.
Even my last wheelie that ended up in a 40mph run behind the bike and watch it flip was a clutch up, AT 35mph in Second Gear.
To wheelie takes lots of practice unless you want to crash, The Buell is the best wheelie bike I have found, I rode an R6 just before I looped mine and really had to work to get the front tire off the ground. Maybe }}}I looped because I was trying too hard still thinking about the 6? |
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