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Holling
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know its a mute point to most but why did he decide to build Buells with SAE fasteners instead of metric? Even American cars are all metric now.

Its aggrevating using 7/32nds or 5/16ths instead of 8mm or 10mm etc. Just had to rant.
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Ds_tiger
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will you donate a XB12X to me for Christmas?
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

American Made = American Hardware.


I like it like this. Personaly I hate the metric system.
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Tq!
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Beachbuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why is it sooooo aggrevating? I don't understand. Maybe you need a jap bike instead?
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, it's not SAE. It's a MIX of metric AND SAE. THAT'S what I find aggravating!
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

would you have wanted whitworth ;)
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Ds_tiger
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I Vote for the METRIC system!!





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Teddagreek
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Things are mix....Its Gets to be a pain in the ass..

Wrenching on VW's all these years most my good tools are metric...
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 06:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd asked what Mr Buell intends to offer in the very near future to keep me interested as my best attempts to keep my 8 year old tube frame dinosaur in one piece are becoming tedious.

My Buell has got me to the point where I feel like I've gone back to my Meriden Triumph days, having to work all the time to keep things from breaking or falling off. I thought I'd retired into the riding sunset at 38 years of age when I bought my Buell. Instead I've gone grey, brought on angina and stress, and watched my mates ride into the hills for four of my eight years Buell ownership, whilst I stayed home getting the undersides of my fingernails dirty or biting them in anticipation of impending Buell doom.

This I fear may well be my last Buell summer, though I thank Mr Buell for helping me towards enhancing my Snap-on tool collection beyond my wildest dreams. Don't know what I'll use all those weird American sizes on though, when I buy that Brutale I keep promising myself.

Rocket
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Heads
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we don't want to get to advanced...just keep it easy
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Socalbueller
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, it's not SAE. It's a MIX of metric AND SAE. THAT'S what I find aggravating!

+1
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Thespive
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All American cars are metric? Try taking apart a Ford these days, SAE, Metric and Torx! At least I have the tools to disassemble anything.

--Sean
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Xxxb9s
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 metric system
I hate SAE (I live in Europe)
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WTH? Get more tools.

I like the fact that when I go a long distance I can take very few tools and have enough to damn well take the entire bike apart... You can't bitch about that...
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is ridiculous to have to keep switching from standard to metric throughout a job. Too easy to strip a fastener if you are not careful.

The American cars are worse. When they went metric they made up sizes that no one else uses like 18MM. You had to buy a third set of tools for thier idiotic sizes. I think that they used the closest millimeter size to varius standard sizes. Just stupid.
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe they should add a few Whitworth fasteners just to make it interesting....
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The foot pegs, engine (including intake and exhaust), fuel tank, axles and tranny are all SAE. I don't get where I would have to keep switching from SAE to metric. Pretty simple. Engine, fuel tank, tranny, foot pegs are SAE. The rest is pretty much metric.
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know that the clutch perch bolt is 8mm.
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Lorazepam
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Why does grass get so high that I have to cut it instead of ride?"
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Mramsey
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will my 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2" drive ratchets fit the metric sockets in primarily metric countries or areas? Do some Primarily metric areas have metric drive sockets? I actually don't know the answer and cant find out even with the power of Google. Having trouble getting the courage to post this question. Ok going to press the "Post this Message" button now!
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Alanshouse
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is Lorazepam a type of drug?
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Lorazepam
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it is kind of a generic equivalent to valium
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Rasta_dog
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh. You mean like Mycoxafloppin is the generic equivalent for Viagra.
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Bumblebee
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The motorcycle parts are sourced form all over the world, so this would make sense.
Annoying? Yes. Get a rollaway and keep metric wrenches in one drawer and SAE in the other. At least that’s how I cope with it.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will my 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2" drive ratchets fit the metric sockets in primarily metric countries or areas?

I believe the drive sizes for sockets are the same... at least in Japan and Europe the last time I was there. I'm sure some countries produced odd sized drives for their home markets though. Maybe in Lithuania... who knows.
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Perry
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would ask Mr. Buell why there is no storage whatsoever on the 12S, and why there is no counter-balance, and why the fan and fuel pump scream like banshees. Oh, and when I'll get 120 HP.

As far as that other topic...The only problem with the metric system is that many of us don't have it ingrained in our brains. The system is inherently superior in many ways and at least equal in all others.

I lived in Europe for a couple years, and once you get it down it's very nice. It sucks during the transition when your intuitive sense of measure is useless. When you want some cheese, do you want 800 grams or 1500 grams? If you don't have an intuitive sense of measure you end up trying to do these conversions in your head so you can relate to it, which is a real PITA.

Once you break through that barrier you are set, and never have to worry about how many ounces in a pint or any other such nonsense.
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The metric system works great if you can count from 8 to 52.

Why piss about with fractions?



Rocket
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Kdan
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm ready for American manufacturers to catch up with the rest of the world. SAE is stupid.

Oh, and I'd ask Mr. Buell when I can have my Super-moto Blast.

(Message edited by kdan on September 22, 2006)
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