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Chevroletss1965
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 04:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have noticed lately that the fan has not been coming on at all, even after the bike has been turned off. I live in arizona and have rod it in traffic on days where the weather was 100+ outside, still no fan. Bike has never stalled or ran bad, always runs like a champ. My bike has about 3200 miles, and I checked for blown fuse or unhooked wires. I also checked to make sure the fan spins freely, seems fine. I have a service manual and it says use a breakout box to diagnose, I priced a breakout box and they said about $600, yeah right...... Anybody know any easy ways to diagnose the problem?
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Brineusaf
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

is it throwing any codes?
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Chevroletss1965
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, the check engine light has never came on.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm... take a multimeter to the fan to see if it is actually getting power?
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Davo
Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is what I did on my Uly to check fan operation. Check a manual or wait for a XBer to verify if the parameters are the same as the Uly. If they are different please chime in.

Key off, fan on rear head temperature needs to be 338 F or hotter for operation. It is very hard for me a believe that you are cooler than that if you are bone stock. I was able to trip my fan into operating by installing a 220 ohm jumper from the ECM ET wire connector (PK/Y wire at pin 9 gray ECM connector) to ground. With the key and ignition on, I simply touched the jumper to ground for a moment. 220 ohms is the equivalent of 428 F which is the fan on, key on temperature. DO not disconnect the ET or you will get a trouble code. Either us a pin to connect in the connector socket or simply make a pin hole connection in wire. I used the small metal slide from the inside of a wire in-line splicer.

Or find someone with a VDSTS to check the ET readings. If you own a Buell a VDSTS will pay for it self the day it shows up in the mail! Just call American Sportbike

(Message edited by davo on September 20, 2006)
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Newxb9er
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same thing with me. Read:
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Chevroletss1965
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What do you mean by a 220 ohm jumper, is the PK/Y wire a 220 ohm wire and by using a jumper wire to ground it, the fan will operate? Sorry if that is a stupid question, just don't want to mess anything up.
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Davo
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is not a stupid question. I should have explained that the ET is a sensor that changes its resistance (ohms) to ground as it gets hotter. The hotter the less resistance for the ECM circuit to ground.

For example on a xb12x:

104 F=25,647 ohms
374 F=463 ohms
410 F=303 ohms
572=0 (zero) ohms

So if the ET wire shorts out to ground, the ECM will react as if the engine was overheating. I use a 220 ohm resister to give the ECM the intel that the engine is at normal fan on (421 F).

There is a chart in the factory manual that gives the resistance specs and it also provides voltage specs so you can take real time (dynamic) readings with a DVOM to monitor the ET's operation. (pg. 4-52 for xb12x FSM)
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Tbowdre
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

did you install a right sided air scoop?
heeheee sorry
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Xb12r_nate
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL That was funny! Spit out my Goose : D

Nate
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