| Author | Message | ||
     Bud689 |
on an 05xb12r can you run an aftermarket pipe(muffler)(odie, d&d, jardine, drummer, etc...) with the stock ecm and stock air filter? would like to buy pipe now, and later the ecm and air filter. just bought the bike and i am now low on funds, but really would like a little more sound. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
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| Ds_tiger |
I guess what 99buellx1 is saying is 1-this forum has covered this topic a zillion times, so if you are a masochist- do a search What I say is: - one half of the replies you get will say "god NO! it will run lean and burn up your motor/cause warranty issues/make your bike expolode, shorten lifetime - the other half will say " I did it- bike ran fine" GOOD LUCK BTW I ran mine like that (race pipe, race air filter) for the time until my back ordered ECU arrived: I personally witnessed no carnage but "you never know  | ||
| Bud689 |
sorry to beat a dead horse. some people have a life and cannot sit at the computer all day and night to sift through the search results. i did a search and found a lot of opinions and different results, but i wanted someone that has actually run this setup and could give me their results. anyway thanks ds tiger for your reply. | ||
| Bads1 |
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| Thumper2811 |
 I have a life too, but I can find alot of time to sit on Badweb | ||
| Thumper2811 |
Sorry bads1 you got in quicker than I did | ||
| Bud689 |
man i am sorry to piss everybody off. i havent posted on this site enough to fully figure out the log in/off, and to send pm's. its a little different than some of the other sites i have used. odie hooked me up with this site, i live a few miles from him and he helped me with my last bike, i'll just go see him and let him help me out now. | ||
| Aeholton |
Bud689 - Run Odie's pipe. I ran one with stock ECM and air filter with no problems. He's a great guy and his pipe has a great sound. Also, he keeps the in interactive exhaust valve, so no conflicts with stock ECM. The rest of you - BE NICER TO NEW (OR RELATIVELY NEW) PEOPLE POSTING! THIS AIN'T SACBORG. | ||
| Bud689 |
thanks aeholton. | ||
| Daves |
What Aeholton said about being nice. As far as your question As long as you just do the pipe I think you'll be fine. If it were me, I'd leave the air filter alone until you get the race ecm. YMMV | ||
| Brupska |
What Aeholton and Daves said. I did the same thing when I got my Drummer. I ran mine for a couple months until I got a Race ecm, filter and a TFI unit. My bike ran great. | ||
| Bads1 |
Daves its what he typed.... Sorry to beat dead horse some of us have a life and can't sit on the computer all day and night.... Bud I'm not one of the guys that are not willing to help with a question but it was how you came across at first. Kinda sounded like you were saying the people of this Board don't have a life. So in return they probably thought why ask a group of people that don't have lives. As far as your question Odie's got a great pipe as does Drummer for your application that you are inquiring about.} | ||
| Bud689 |
bads1 and everyone else, sorry for my reply-didnt mean for it to come out that way, but let me tell you why- first i did a search, got way to much to read and what i did read did not answer my question, then i thought maybe i want get flamed for asking this question, but guess what the first reply to my post was- beat a dead horse. i want to give a shout out to daves and odie, thanks. | ||
| Odie |
Bud689- I left you a message on your machine at home yesterday afternoon. Give me a call when you get a chance. 494-5975. Later, Odie. | ||
| CJXB |
What Aeholton, Daves, and Brupska said !  | ||
| Bads1 |
What CJ said.  | ||
| Blake |
My answer to your question is that I would not run a stock ECM with any aftermarket muffler and especially not with an opened airbox. Just ride the bike. | ||
| Jerseyguy |
The following flies in the face of conventional wisdom. Take it for what its worth. Early this summer Kevin told me that he was running the STOCK ECM in the Drummer racebike with great results. It's a tricked out XB9 that he will have to spec. for you since I don't remember all of what he did. He's campaigned the bike all summer that way & says it runs perfectly. 101 octane gas too. So back in early June he asked me to switch my bike back to the stock ECM and test it. I've got an '06 XB12Ss, Drummer CF, K&N, Drummer Catch Can and open airbox. I've run it all summer and I can't tell the difference between the with the race ECM and with the stock ECN. I haven't put my data acquisition system on it yet as I've been too busy having fun just riding it. I can tell you it runs great, idles great, wheelies like a mofo, the plugs look good and tailpipe color is right on. The only minor driveability issue I've had has been the same with both ECMs. That is a sputter when the engine is cold during the first mile or so. This got a bit worse when I opened up the airbox. Other than that, its all good. |
