| Author | Message | ||
     Illyhaskel |
Just wondering if anyone else with the open air box mod and Micron system can't hear a damn thing after a long ride. Maybe I need to buy a more air tight helmet or some ear plugs. | ||
| Edonis |
I've always used ear plugs. I run a stock pipe as well. Wind noise, even with a full face helmet, will regularley exceed 90db at highway speeds. Do yourself a favor and spring for some. They're only about $4 US for a pack of 10. Cheers | ||
| Stealthxb |
Micron is one of the quieter pipes available for Buells. It adheres to Euro standards. | ||
| Adamcooney |
I'm deaf anyways from being a drummer for years. Minus well just make it worse! | ||
| Xbeau12s |
I have the pro race muff. I guess I like the V-twin hum when I'm on the interstate that I can hear through my helmet. Doesn't effect my hearing at all (that I notice anyway). Probably because I'm been around HDs' for my entire life! | ||
| Pwnzor |
The sound that is bombarding you is from the intake. Earplugs. | ||
| Indy_bueller |
Ditto Pwnzor. The intake is much louder than the pipe if you have an open airbox setup. | ||
| Stevexb |
Agree with the above! I have Micron with Open airbox mod and the noise is airbox, not Micron! If you are struggling with the noise, try putting on the standard airbox, only 10 minutes work and see what you think yourself? Steve | ||
| Illyhaskel |
yeah...I figured it was the airbox. I love the performance so I'll just wear ear plugs on a longer ride. Anyone got any helmet suggestions though? I have an Icon Mainframe and it seems to be a little too noisy. | ||
| Vonsliek |
agv ti-tech .. u get silent helmet AND look like a rossifussi! put in plugs & all u will hear will be the sweet drone of yr hi-po vtwin | ||
| Spectrum |
I wear these Sennheiser ear buds and strap my Nano to my leg. The model number is CX300B. They fit in your ear canal so they are comfortable with the helmet. They have pretty good attenuation so they filter out most of the wind noise. I don't wear them around town or in traffic, but on long hauls on the highway it's nice. They have such good sound I've thought about modifying a communication system to use them.  | ||
| Diablobrian |
one of these may help make your current helmet quieter. http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=1&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=MRX_MSW3 | ||
| Trojan |
Micron is one of the quieter pipes available for Buells. It adheres to Euro standards No it isn't. The Micron is one of the only pipes that we sell that is NOT Euro approved for road use, and it is loud. Not loud in the US sense like the Force or D&D, but certainly over here in the UK it is one of the loudest aftermarket pipes available for the XB. I have spoken to Micron about making a Euro legal version but they have no plans at present to do one. (Message edited by trojan on August 15, 2006) | ||
| Glenn |
Which ones do meet the Euro standard? Does the standard or SS Drummer meet it? I want the extra performance but not too much noise. | ||
| Lpowel02 |
i use ear plugs all the time...i got a 200 box of Howard Leight Max plugs for ~$20 (Message edited by lpowel02 on August 15, 2006) | ||
| Trojan |
Which ones do meet the Euro standard? Does the standard or SS Drummer meet it? The stock pipe meets the Euro noise limits, but I doubt that the Drummer will. You may get away with the Drummer in Europe if it still has the original marks on it from the factory though. You need to look to see if the pipe has the E mark to be Euro friendly. The Buell race kit pipe does not comply either. Some that do are: Hot Performance, Remus, HPE or HSA. | ||
| Nsbuell |
I don't buy that the airbox makes more noise than the pipe at speed. I had a Buell race can and an open airbox and it never bothered me on the highway...I switched to a Latus this year with the same set up otherwise and it really hurts my ears (even with earplugs) after a long highway ride. The Latus has a much lower frequency...maybe that's the reason. It's worse with my visor shut too. I've ridden my buddy's bike which has a force pipe and it's not nearly as loud when you're riding it as it seems standing beside it. | ||
| Thumper2811 |
I beg to differ the Force pipe is loud as hell on or off 10mph or 100mph. Probably the loudest pipe I've ever heard. | ||
| Vonsliek |
nsbuell .. i think u hit the nail on the head there .... frequency of noise! certainly the airbox noise is right under yer nose - so it HAS to count .. but the frequency of the exhaust MAY become an issue. w/ my kit racecan, i only hear the rumble when passing under a bridge or, by a concrete barrier. | ||
| Diablobrian |
I honestly don't think the force, Beson, rhinehart etc. pipes should be used on the road. They are just too loud. Even the D&D is marginal. The Jardine I got with my bike is pretty far to the loud end of the spectrum. We have to watch this or it will be watched for us by legislators that have no idea what they are writing the laws to govern. The fact H-D quit selling louder pipes is a signal changes are in the wind. | ||
| U4euh |
I don't buy that the airbox makes more noise than the pipe at speed I can attest to the fact that this is true. I had an open airbox design on my 9s. On long runs or high speed canyon riding, it got downright earshattering, WITH earplugs. I have since bought an entire 12 inner airlid and couldn't be happier with the fact that I can now actually hear the exhaust note, and not the intake honk. But of course I did cut up theouter airbox also, so that didn't help the situation out that I spoke of!!  | ||
| Steve_larson |
I can add that as a company we are involved in "roundtable" discussions involving many organizations and government agencies from around the world, and the writing is on the wall. Sound is becoming a LARGE topic of discussion, and none of the discussion is about how to make more noise.  Everyone should be very aware that if we want to keep even "some" of the fun we have, we all have to start acting much more responsibly in regards to sound. Very powerful forces are coming to bear against "loud pipes", so keep this in mind when using your machine, because each of us is in the end responsible for how our sport is viewed by the other 99% of the people in this world that don't ride. Blasting through neighborhoods at 2:00am with an open header is not making anybody our friends, and there is a "time and place" for everything, including making less noise. That time is coming, and we all need to start doing our part or lose the rights altogether. H-D did not stop selling loud pipes because they don't like to make money, they are showing you that the freight train is already coming and they don't want to be in the way... Steve Larson Micron Exhausts | ||
| The_new_guy |
I'm not trying to hijack this thread but I have a question about intake noise. I have a micron/open airbox combo and the thing I notice the most is a sort of thumping or clicking noise when getting on the throttle pretty good at lower rpm's. It's kind of hard to describe the sound but I have ran engines with the air filter off (while working on them) and I think it's normal. does that sound right? Steve Larson - I love my micron! Gregg | ||
| Pwnzor |
The pipe may actually make more noise, BUT it's not blasting you straight in the face and chest either. Location is everything. | ||
| Thespive |
Steve, thanks for you input. I am in the automotive industry, and the writing is on the wall here, but fortunately, we have SEMA working for us. I have a Sportster with a 1250 and a Supertrapp 2-1 and it is pretty loud. Loud enough that I won't ride that bike at night. That is one thing I enjoy about the Buell is how quiet it is. I recently picked up the Race Kit because it offers decent performance, but in the exhaust shootout was shown to be the quietest. I live in a Beach community where this is an issue, so I have top ride the Sporty mellow and short shift around town. I just wish there were more exhaust companies making performance exhausts that could give you gains without the headaches of extreme volume. If I could find such a pipe for the Sporty, I would be in heaven. --Sean | ||
| Pwnzor |
Supertrapp makes silencers that fit in some of their pipes don't they? | ||
| Bake |
Thanks Diablo, Ive been looking for one of those helmet skirts! | ||
| Ulendo |
2 points on noise / noise pollution 1: I occasionally put in hours at a friends go kart track ( former malibu grand prix track, for those who know what MGP is) he runs high performance 377 rotax 2 strokes in the full size karts. anyway - on the track, they run open K&N's specifically FOR the noise/sound, but doing tuning in the shop we HAVE to swap on closed box paper filters, as the open filters drown out all other noises when you crack the throttles. Also related to teh noise levels, he now falls foul of the commercial hours noise restrictions, where the previous motors ( with enclosed filters) were quiet enough that in 23 years of operation, they never had issues or complaints. 2) there's currently (all of this summer) an RCMP crackdown on loud pipes. not sure the exact scale (96 or 98db @ 6 feet, I think), but they're using an audio meter @ given distance to spec bikes, 'ricers', and cars / trucks with loud pipes. Specific targets are open pipe / aftermarket pipe bikes, import racers, and DIESEL trucks with open pipes. ( they test those for both exhaust , and turbo noise levels..) I've got friends on the local force, and the 'unofficial' official word is that ALL units will be getting the meters in the new year, and the crackdown will be ongoing ..... consider this a polite heads up for anyone touring this way |
