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Kybueller
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have someone interested in my race can, but they need it for a 12 and mine was on my 9. Will it work on the 12? I thought it would, but not sure.

Greg
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Gearhead998
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I asked the same question before, and yes it is. The collector part of the header is the same size on the 9 and the 12.
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Kybueller
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks!! Sounds good!

Greg
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Aeroe
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like you got the answer you needed so I'm going to steal your thread...hope you don't mind

I was looking through the KV (go me!) because i was thinking about cutting up the stock can and modding it. One thing I couldn't find though was what the difference between the buell race muffler and the buell stock muffler. Anyone know??
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Gearhead998
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

inquiring minds want to know. i think someone tried to post thedifference a while ago, but it was deleted
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Altima02
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Download the Buell XB exhaust shootout file at American Sportbike. It has very thorough information on both.

KYbueller, where in KY do you live, I'm in Lexington. I have a yellow 03 XB9SL
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Buellshyter
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seems to me I recall reading they are not the same
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Barker
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does anyone one have any pix of the cans filleted open? So we can see the guts?
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Kybueller
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Altima02,

I live in the western end of ky near paducah and the lakes. Been to lexington many times though. My friend just graduated from UK Pharma. If we ever get that way I will get with you and we can ride.

Greg
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Aeroe
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's going to be tough finding someone that's gutted their nice new race muffler
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Al_lighton
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

04 and later Buell race cans are all dimensionally identical, just polished or matte finish.

03 race cans are slightly different, the exhaust tips are a little higher and will foul the 04 and later belt drive idler pulley. There were no XB12s in 03, and all of them were matte finish.

But not all matte finish race cans are 03 versions.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the gutted can pics were shut down because they were trying to show a side by side of one, or more of our sponsors mods
to the cans. Not cool. There is a lot of blood sweat and tears involved with the work to make the pipes better.

If someone had pics of an opened race can and stock can that might go over better, but it might not.
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Al, isnt the 03 can shorter as well?
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Garp
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the gutted can pics were shut down because they were trying to show a side by side of one, or more of our sponsors mods
to the cans. Not cool. There is a lot of blood sweat and tears involved with the work to make the pipes better.

I'm sure a lot of "blood, sweat and tears" went into the design of the stock muffler as well, and I don't think stealing Intellectual property is cool under any circumstances. That being said, The sponsor developed their design after examining the stock muffler, so I don't see how examining their muffler to produce a competitor is any different.
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Aeroe
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That being said, The sponsor developed their design after examining the stock muffler, so I don't see how examining their muffler to produce a competitor is any different.

Hmmmm....Interesting point....
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree, interesting point.
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Mdm
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are internal pictures of engines intellectual property as well, tyres, sparkplugs, washing machines...
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Garp
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, they are. Most things can be considered intellectual property in that they were once somebodies original idea. The question is who owns the idea, and whether they are protected by patent or some other means. Buell mufflers are patented, although I think that applies more to the position of the muffler itself, rather than anything special with the internals. If the sponsor hasn't patented his idea, then in a free market it is fair game for copying. Sucks, but that's life.

(Message edited by garp on July 30, 2006)
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The pictures are not, the subject is.

I get into this with the NYPD and the FBI in New York City trying to tell me where I can and can not take pictures.

Generally ANY picture taken from a public place is fine. Owners of private property may (like inside the Buell facility) restrict photos.

If you need the services of a good IP attorney, with regard to photos, I just happen to have one.

: )

CLASSIC LINE BY NYPD: "Hey....you can't take pictures of the Brooklyn Bridge" To which I replied..."when then ya better callout the National Guard to bomb that crowd there"
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