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Darkducati
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

McWilliams finished in eighth. Not a win but I'll take a top ten. Unfortunately Mike Hale never completed his first lap, he went straigt into the pits. Eric Bostrom won. GO BUELL RACING!

(Message edited by darkducati on July 22, 2006)
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Dongalonga
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hell yeah top ten is a great start. I am sure Erik is very pleased, because he is probably pretty realistic in his expectations.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Next stop: Top 5

This is good progress for a program that is still in it's early stages!

Go Buell!

Congratulations Jeremy, and all the people that made it happen.
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stupid ? ,But how many laps and the length of the track if Ya know? Thanks
www. site for the track info?
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Hattori_hanzo
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

15 laps...track map here: http://www.laguna-seca.com/generalinfo/index.cfm?FuseAction=TrackMap
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Buddy.....
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Skyguy
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am glad they got a top ten! Pretty funny how on some boards the people that said "they will grenade and not finish" are all falling back on how lousy a top ten is.

They are killing me. GJ for a new team effort much less a new team effort and a new bike!


Maybe someday the HD home office will have enough sales to start adding better headlights and drive systems.................
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Jima4media
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

8th place is good finish for McWilliams, but what happened with Hale's DNF?
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Timbo
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GREAT NEWS!!!

GO BUELL!!!
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I see over on other boards now the bitcher and moaner self appointed Race experts are questioning why they didn't finish on the podium. Ya know, some people are just born whinny little bitches. Not happy unless they have something to complain about. First it was " they'll grenade before the finish, what pieces of crap" Now they finish, top 10 no less and it's "why didn't they finish on the podium, pieces of crap".
Next they'll finish 3rd and it will be "why not 2nd?", then 2nd and "why not 1st".
Last I checked there were plenty of Jap bikes that finished behind Buell. What's there excuse? Oh that's right, they don't need one because they're far superior no matter where they finish.
Good for Buell. Just finishing is a victory. But there will always be some @@shole that tries to shit on the parade. Some people need to get a hobby.




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New12r
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some people need to get a hobby

They tried getting bikes but are too busy typing on the net to ride them.

GO BUELL!!!!!!
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Xb9
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't pay them 2 cents worth of attention.

GO BUELL Racing

Great Ride Jeremy!!
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Buellerthanyou
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 03:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My friend Barry was at the race and got this pic:


xbrr



HellBuelly J
"There are only three sports: mountain climbing, bull fighting, and
motor racing. All the rest are merely games."
--Ernest HemingBuelly
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Xlcr
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Think about this too, according to RRW, the ambient temp under the awning in the Warr's/Buell pit was 114F at race time. They say they've been treating people at the track for heat stroke! That is very hard on an air-cooled engine. It's amazing there was no trouble with it.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just cant see them winning with that lump of an engine.
Sorry SOMEONE had to say it.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They're getting better every race.

I predict a top 5 at Mid-Ohio.

Traction control could work in the IL4's favor though.
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Percyco
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I just cant see them winning with that lump of an engine"


Did better than about 28 other non-lump engines......go figure. By the way...in NHRA are'nt the lump engines kinda kicking everyones rearend ? Seems like they had to change some rules this year just so the Jap-bikes could have a chance.

Lumpity - Lumpity}
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kinda like the did in FX for buell eh?
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Percyco
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope......No rule changes in FX that I know of, the book was written way before Erik and his farm equipment powered bicycles showed up.............

Lumpity Lump
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh thats right they didn't change the rules.
Buell just broke them,Were CAN I buy a production version of that xbrr anyway?
Don't get me wrong I'm glad to see a bike with the same name as mine racing but I stand by my statement that I just cant see them WINNING with that engine.


CMON ERIK NUT UP AND BUILD A I4!
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let me see a production version of the R6??? Double,hell almost triple the amount of the XBRR. Buelltroll you want a inline 4 you should of went and bought one. Who knows what the future holds for the XBRR but its not all that bad either.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You've never seen a production version of the R6?
Goto ANY yamaha dealer n I'm sure they can point you at one or 20.
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Ctyxrnr
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CONGRATS TO JEREMY AND BUELL!!!!!!!!

BADWEB = BUELL ENTHUSIASTS!!!!!!

NOTHING GOOD TO SAY DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!!!!!
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Percyco
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

}You've never seen a production version of the R6?

What's that got to do with the price of eggs.......Yamaha's R6 AMA FX racer certainly did'nt come off the show room floor, maybe they should paste some City X stickers on the XBRR so that everyone will be warm and fuzzy.

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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They can hey. Where??? The ones I see are about 9 grand not 85 grand plus. Thats right whats production about that?? Their is plenty on Graves R6's that you or anyone for that matter cannot purchase or they would have more competition then they already have. Gotta go this is a argument that Buell had already won with the AMA so it doesn't need to be proved to you.
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Darkducati
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This all stemmed from Buell calling it the XBRR. Some people are so short sighted they insist that it's not legal when it is obviously the same platform as the XB12R. The funny thing is that it has more in common with the street bike than the competition has in common with their street bikes. It takes more intelligence to see similarity than difference, and the world is full of idiots. I think this whole argument would have been shut down had it been called an XB12R. But then we would be hearing "It ain't legal! It ain't got no 1200 in it!" Even though that too is clearly legal. I say, ignore them and let them bitch like little girls.
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Thepup
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The funny thing is that it has more in common with the street bike than the competition has in common with their street bikes. It takes more intelligence to see similarity than difference, and the world is full of idiots."

Talk about an idiotic statement.Name one thing the XBRR has in common with a street Buell.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Name one thing the XBRR has in common with a street Buell"

Frame is the first thing. the outer stampings are allowed under the gas tank volume increases.

The undertail is the same.

The swing arm is the same, but modified for chain use.

there are a bunch more things, but you only asked for one.

If you think the motors in a FX honda, or Yamaha factory bike are the same, unmodified engines you can buy in a show
room, or the chassis, suspension, or even wheels and brakes you're mistaken.
Everything from swingarm pivots to materials used to make engine internal parts and casings to dimensions are different.
Go try taking a close look at those "stock based bikes" some time. At least as close as they'll allow, which isn't very.}
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M1combat
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Front brake rotor, FRAME, X1 tach, Brake lines most likely, rear caliper and rotor, most of the swing arm, engine mounting brackets, oil lines I'd guess, wouldn't doubt if the oil pump was the same... I'm sure there's more.

That's not the point IMO though... IMO it's all about money. How much can an XBRR be built for, and how much can a competitive IL4 bike be built for? You don't think that if someone like graves, yoshimura, attack or whoever put the same amount of money into an XBRR that they put into an IL4 that it wouldn't be capable of winning races? Personally I think it's extremely close as it is now... There's still bugs I'm sure but they're making HUGE progress. Eighth place in an AMA race...

You don't think that the factory teams were pulling out all the "extra" stops for Laguna? I do. They placed eighth. That's BRILLIANT.

I'm beginning to see exactly what Blake talks about... Some people just have to have something to bitch about. FU.
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Thepup
Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Diablo.I never said the others were the same,but they are closer to stock that the Buells.
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