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Gentleman_jon
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 09:57 am: | 
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That's telling them, Fritz!!
Seriously folks, his conversion is a thing of beauty and a joy to ride. Plus the price is right.
Doesn't get any better than that, does it? |
Firebolteric_ma
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:25 am: |
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THANKS Diablobrian i will fix that part of the kit items i saved. i don't usually "skimp" on many things when it comes to quality items. if i do go this route i will most likely source out top notch items......who am i kidding..i'll probubly just get the one Trojan has if i REALLY decide. which i may very shortly!!!
I NEED TO BUY SOME RIDDING GEAR FIRST!!!(keep telling myself nothing for the bike till i get some gear.keep telling myself nothing for the bike till i get some gear.keep telling myself nothing for the bike till i get some gear.)OKAY..i;'m back on track..lol |
Ronlv
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
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please dont take offense
i used to think the homemade kit was fine to, and that everyones conversion was over priced
however after using the homemade version and trying to keep the tensioner from sliping and the chain losening i decided to spend the money to get the freespirits kit(which by the way is the manufacture that al, trojan and me sell)
i paid full retail for the kit and after using it i decided to become a dealer for it
also there is more diffrence between home made and real thing than just the tensioner
the front sprocket doesnt need a spacer(its made to the right offset)
the tensioner is adjustable and maintains its adjustment
there is a chain guide to keep the chain from hitting the swingarm
the freespirits kit is of the highest quality and function
later, ron |
Saintly
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |
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The freespirits spring loaded tensioner is a Damn nice piece of equipment. There's no disputing that. I'ts the one item that I had originally planed on using. My adjustable tensioner started out as a temporary solution, but it has worked out far beyond my expectations. So it stays.
I personally have never had my slotted tensioner slip at all. I did however mill the adjustment surface for the 3/8 nut perfectly flat. An uneven surface there may cause the slipping that you experienced.
Also I run no upper guide and the chain has NEVER touched the swingarm. There are no marks whatsoever on the swingarm and there appears to be plenty of clearance.
It was after all, designed to clear the much wider belt.
Lastly, all H-D(big twin AND sporty) & Buell 5-speeds use a main drive gear spacer behind the drive pulley/sprocket, so rather than replacing the Buell spacer with the pre-94 big twin spacer which is approx 3/16" wider and costs nearly $40, I added a shim of the correct thickness to work.
Anyway, like I said before I think all of the other kits out there are great. I'ts just that some are beyond the means($$$) of a street rider.
No hard feelings and good luck to all regardless of which kit you preffer. |
Col_klink
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 07:38 pm: |
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Trojan,
I imagine one of the reasons your kit is so expensive is the four rear sprockets you ship with it. Could you supply a kit with (say) just the standard gearing, one pair of sprockets, for something a bit further south of UKP500?
Also, will it fit the XB12SS?
Klink |
Trojan
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 04:42 am: |
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I imagine one of the reasons your kit is so expensive is the four rear sprockets you ship with it. Could you supply a kit with (say) just the standard gearing, one pair of sprockets, for something a bit further south of UKP500?
Part of the expense is that this kit is all billet aluminium rather than inferior quality case pieces. We could supply the kit with just one sprocket if you wish although I would have to work out a price for you.
One thing that must be borne in mind with the chain kit is that it was always developed as a race kit. This means that the chain pitch is a 520 rather than the normal road size of 530. This doe snot create a problem in itself but you will have to change the chain more regularly.
We use a race spec non O ring chain on ours as these sap less power than O or X ring chains.
The lack of a cush drive on the street can cause the drive to feel a little snatchy at times on the road (you don't notice it on track as you are never in stop/start traffic).
Having said that, Ron and others have shown that the kit is perfectly able to be used on the road, you just have to weigh up if it is right for what you use your bike for  |
Ronlv
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 09:03 am: |
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i dont have any ill effects riding it on the street without cush drive
it doesnt feel snatchy to me it feels quicker(less lag) wants to go right now (i like it)
it could just be the seat of the pants dyno but it feels quicker, and i geared mine higher for more top end, but i dont feel i lost anything in the bottom, also i am running a 18" wheel with a 240, still easily pulls second gear wheelies without trying(just under acceleration) and i am on a 9 |
Hammer71
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 06:00 pm: |
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I'm with Col on thi one. If sold with one rear sprocket cost would be down and I would be first in line. might also work if individual parts were sold ie. front or rear sprocket, idler,so on. Wishfull thinking Trojan? |
Ride365
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 06:22 pm: |
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Ronlv,
Did you have to change out your swingarm to get that fat tire on? |
Ronlv
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 06:22 pm: |
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trojan and al at american sportbike stock the race kits(4 sprockets) and i stock the street kit(1 sprocket)all are from the same manufacture (freespirits) |
Hammer71
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 06:24 pm: |
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Ron.. PM sent |
Ronlv
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 06:26 pm: |
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no the kit i have does not require any swingarm mods and my wheel is not offset either
because i used a chain and not a belt it made everthing fit alot nicer
this 240 kit will be available soon |
Pcmodeler
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 06:28 pm: |
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Well, food for thought for some of you. I worked with Ron and Free Spirits on this after some discussion with both of them as well as Al at American. All kind of (well, did) agree that it was really not meant for street because of the aluminum rear sprocket and 520 chain. That said, after further communication with Marcello at Free Spirits, they made me a steel rear sprocket. As far as I know, I'm the first one to get this and it was something they had been thinking about doing as they had the part drawn up in CAD but they just weren't sure there was a market for it. Now, I'm still going to be running the 520 so at any point (track days, etc), I could easily swap over to the Vortex aluminum sprockets.
So, for those looking for single sprocket, get with these folks. I'm sure you can get it but it probably isn't going to be listed in anyones catalog yet. |
Mutation_racer
| | Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 06:57 pm: |
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Yo if your looking for a chain drive conv. contact me at liberty hd buell i'll hook you up with a sweet set up and you can use your stock swingarm 732-381-2400 |
Scoobytwo
| | Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 03:07 am: |
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Hey Mutation_ racer could you post a picture of that conversion please? |
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