| Author | Message | ||
     Robino |
i go to remove the top guard and could only reach one bolt (the middle one) from the other side with a long extension... how the hell does one remove the other two, i can barely fit my finger back there, is there a special tool to get in to unscrew them other two? What the hell were those Buell guys smoking when they designed those attachment points? Don't tell me the rear wheel has to come out to remove the belt guard  | ||
| Bads1 |
yep!!!! | ||
| Tq_freak |
well...I got mine off with out taking the wheel off. it took some time but I used just a torq's head bit and a small 1/4 inch open end wrench and got the bit in there and turned it with the wrench untill I could get the screw with my fingers and back ti the rest of the way out. Pain in the butt but I really didnt want to take the wheel off. Just for a heads up too, I relock-tighted the hardware and put it back in the bolt holes just to keep the road dirt out of there. (Message edited by tq_freak on May 16, 2006) | ||
| Sgthigg |
lol you dont have to take the wheel off to get it off...look at and think about it. tqfreak is right...just take your time..it might take more turns of the wrench but waayyy better than taking the wheel off...f that bs. | ||
| Sik_s |
I use craftsman professional ratcheting drivers. I use these just about anywhere. I found the part number out of the catalog for the standards in the dark here: 0947477 Also I did not have to take off the rear wheel to take my guards off. All of about a 2 minute job to do so. Edit: They are on page 79 of the 06-07 power and hand tools catalog (Message edited by sik_s on May 17, 2006) | ||
| Sik_s |
I Googled the p/n but it didn't come up with anything...weird, so I searched ebay and came up with a pic of a mac tools set. If you don't have a set of these I can highly recommend them. Anything that ratchets can make your life easier.  | ||
| Buellxb1203r |
how does the belt ride without the guards. are there any issues with the belt coming off the sprocket | ||
| Dragonbuell12r |
The belt guards just keep debris off the belt. The belt rides the same, guards on or off. BTW, it only takes about two minutes to take the wheel off to get to the guard screws. It probably took you a lot longer monkeying around between the tire and the swingarm. Just my $0.01. I like mine guardless.  | ||
| Robino |
i just can't believe they would engineer them like that, when there's plenty of other ways they could have attached that guard without placing the bolts on the inside where they can't be reached. that's why i question why there's no right side air scoop, the engineers are definitelly smoking crack when designing these things. Another marvel of engineering are the back header bolts, i peeked up in there and can't even see one of them...i was planning on removing the header to send it out to get ceramic coated...but i'm not dissasembling the whole back end to get to a header bolt  | ||
| Gowindward |
"What the hell were those Buell guys smoking when they designed those attachment points? Don't tell me the rear wheel has to come out to remove the belt guard" "i just can't believe they would engineer them like that, when there's plenty of other ways they could have attached that guard without placing the bolts on the inside where they can't be reached." "Another marvel of engineering are the back header bolts, i peeked up in there and can't even see one of them...i was planning on removing the header to send it out to get ceramic coated...but i'm not dissasembling the whole back end to get to a header bolt" "that's why i question why there's no right side air scoop, the engineers are definitelly smoking crack when designing these things. " Danny, Have you ever had anyone pay you to design or engineer a product? Maybe you should send your resume in to Buell, so you can help them solve some of these problems you identified so clearly. | ||
| Brucelee |
I took my guard off yesterday. Wow, what a PITA. I did get it off without removing the rear wheel but it is in many pieces. Looks very good now. Hope the belt stays intact. I am planning to move up to the new belts and all when this one buys it. Yes, the engineers clearly did NOT want us to take this bad boy off. Ditto on the right side scoop. Buy one!!!!!!!! BTW- I am having ceramic headers installed on Monday. The shop says 3 hours to do the job. Clearly, the engineers do NOT care about repairs and maintenance. | ||
| Robino |
that's all i'm saying... you ever work on a german bike or car you'll notice they THINK before they make anything. Just very poor design on Buell's part, that's all. (typical for an american product) | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
why not just remove the swingarm "brace" and remove the guards? takes all of 5 minutes. thats how i did mine. hung it from the rafters to take the weight off the rear and removed the brace and then the guards. simple right? | ||
| Glitch |
Sheesh, sell the Buells and get yourself a german bike! Take a look at Hill Billy Motors, those German guys really love the Buells. They actually sell better over there than they do here in the states. What's that tell ya? | ||
| Brucelee |
Glitch, Man, why so defensive? Did you design the XB? I LOVE my XB. Having said that, no bike is perfect, it is up to us to make it so. That is why I like the fact that Buell did not invent the right side air scoop. It still works anyway! | ||
| Gowindward |
"you ever work on a german bike or car you'll notice they THINK before they make anything. Just very poor design on Buell's part, that's all. (typical for an american product)" "Looks very good now. Hope the belt stays intact." "Yes, the engineers clearly did NOT want us to take this bad boy off. " If the engineers at Buell hadn't had a belt guard on the bike from the factory. IMHO you two would be the first two in line to BITCH about it. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Bhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha. I "married into" an Audi 80. I think it was an 91 or something... I don't recall exactly. Yeah, the engineers thought about it, they thought "how can we make this as hard and expensive to repair as possible". They were *very* good at their job. The bastards! | ||
| Olinxb12r |
When I took my top guard off the last time I just removed the swingarm brace that it mounts to. It took a couple minutes to take off the brace, and then the guard came off very easily. I didn't read the entire thread, but just in case nobody else said anything to that effect you might try it. I know it sucks to take more things off than you have to, but it also sucks trying to fit your hands and tools in to places they don't fit in. | ||
| Jimmy |
Robino, quit yur dang Bitchen and get some so you will get in a better mood. I'll bet you can't say anything good about anyone or anything. What is up your Ars? Is it those stupid striped Wheels you keep seeing in your Head. Yes I am Picking on you you cause you Pick on or at every thing I Like from Odie to Buell or even America. Are you a Nazi? McArthur wouldn't aprove. | ||
| Bomber |
tough to monday-morning engineer something well if you don't know what requirements were part of the engineering excersize -- I'm sure the rear jug header bolts RE tough to get too -- field-expeidant repair is likely not on the top of the R&D requirements this is true of many things, sez the guy that tried to help his friend flush the brake system on his 2 year old BMW (which is, I believe, german made) we gave up three hours into the job | ||
| Dragonbuell12r |
I have been a mechanical designer for many years. (aircraft, satellites, sheet metal, machined parts)I can't tell you how many times I started a design with the intention of making it easy to work on when some guys above me come bye and make me shove two more lbs of poo in the one lb bag. Makes me laugh and yes I still complain about some things with the Buell design myself. That is until I lean her over thru a turn while rolling back on the throttle at the apex. Shear heaven. P.S. I remove the rear wheel instead of the swingarm brace because the rear brake bracket keeps me from a straight shot with the tool I like to use. (Message edited by dragonbuell12r on May 17, 2006) | ||
| Gearhead998 |
Does anyone have the '04-'05 rear belt guards that they would be willing to part with. Really only need the lower, but will take both if you have 'em. Thanks | ||
| Fravel |
Hey Gearhead, I'd possibly be interested in the top belt gaurd. | ||
| Robino |
you can have mine once i figure out how to remove them LOL hey, i call it like i see it, they could have easily put the bolts under or in front instead of in the back where they're v.hard to get to, that's all i'm saying. they had to be smoking something good and frankly i feel left out. | ||
| Bads1 |
Robino I'll take those guards if you don't want them. But before you just give them away you might want to think about it. They ain't cheap for what they are. | ||
| Crusty |
You know; the engineers put those guards there for a reason. It's to keep crap out of the belt. They probably made it difficult to remove them intentionally, to discourage people from taking them off. When you're sitting by the side of the road with a broken belt you'll be able to console yourself with the fact that at least you look cool. Of course, when you discover that the belt isn't covered by the warranty if you remove the guards, then you can bitch about how poor a design it is. | ||
| Brucelee |
This difficult to repair issue is certainly NOT restricted to Buell or to any specific country. I would not even TRY to work on my 911. Just looking under the hood gives me the shakes. On the other hand, the C5 Corvette is a pretty easy thing to work on. Go figure. | ||
| Brucelee |
BTW- I know the belt guard serves a purpose. I know I am increasing the risk of the belt breaking, no great surprise there. Risk is part of life! | ||
| Rfp69 |
Try and get the oil filter of an '06 Suzuki GSXR 750, if you want a REAL treat! | ||
| Robino |
ok my dear friends... as suggested by Olinxb12R, i removed the swingarm support, 5 minutes, bada boom bada bing, guards came off while i sipped on a lemonade, easy as pie. Thanks Buell engineers  looks cleaner without them, i've just put all the guards/other extras i have in the classifieds for those interested. i've also highlighted the edge of the rear pulley while i was down there, still waitin' numerous other parts to come for when i get back from vacation.     (Message edited by robino on May 17, 2006) (Message edited by robino on May 17, 2006) | ||
| Cycleaddict |
Damn, those unprotected drive belts sho do look good !! | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
what did you use to "clean" up the edges on that rotor? looks sweet like that. i was planning on doing the whole rotor w/ some aircraft paint stripper, but may go this rout. i like it! | ||
| Dragonbuell12r |
Did you mean sprocket??? It's the Buell diamond polish sprocket. $95 thru your dealer. | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
my bad..i have some lyndall pads in front of me and i was thinking rotor while typing, but ment sprocket. what a dork i am sometimes.  Dragonbuell12r looks like he only "highlighted" the edge of the stocker. i could be wrong though. i'll look at the buell website now. thanks | ||
| Robino |
stock pulley i just put on a small scuff pad on my pneumatic high speed sander and went to town. |
