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Brucelee
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thinking about buying these for my XB9S. For those of you that have them, how happy are you?

Do they really remain free of oxidation? Do they require any special cleaning etc.

Thanks for your input!
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Buellshiter
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HAD MY HEADER AND DRUMMER CERAMIC COATED
BOTH LOOK GOOD AND DOESN'T DISCOLOR

BUT THE GUY CLEARED COATED THEM AND IT BURNT OFF THE HEADER AND I HAD TO RE-SAND POLISH IT

NOW IT IS OK

SEEMS TO RUN COOLER
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Lonexb
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i had my header coated black. did it about 2 years ago and have around 18k miles or so on them. nothing special to clean them. just wipe them down with a rag.

they look as good as the first day i put them on the bike.

when i first got it done.




taken a few weeks ago, on the bike.







brian
(lonexb)
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Brucelee
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice looking bike!
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone answered this before, how much for black jethot, wait time.. ect ect.?
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Johnk3
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no wait, just shipping if you order through Al at americansportbike. I think it was 189 or 199. I have black too and they look great
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Teddagreek
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know on Cars Ceramic Headers can Translate into some good extra HP but what do they do as far as HP on bikes..

As far as driving is there a noticeable difference in the heat on your right leg?


Short V-Twin 2 into 1 exhaust $80.00 not including shipping..

They have a nice dark blue I'm thinking about getting on my cityx...





http://www.performancecoatings.com
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Rd3501
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Years ago I was told it was 1 hp (HP coating) when I did it on my S-1.
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Xbjelly9s
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)




Got my whole Micron done for $100. So far so good on holding up. They told me if it gets real dity to use oven cleaner on it.
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Ryker77
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got my cars turbo swaintech coated. Has held up perfect and that on a diesel turbo --- temps past 1200 degrees!!!!
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Robino
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i was gonna take my header off and send it to get coated, but them rear cyl. header bolts look tricky to get out...one, i can't even see, never mind attempt to reach
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Mb182
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heres a link to an explanation of what's involved... I plan this for a winter mod

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/3842.html

MB
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Fran_dog
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

More info...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/179639.html?1146019343
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Rfp69
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's some good Info: http://www.jet-hot.com/Pages/tech1.html
I had these guys do my Arrow headers a couple years ago on another bike in sterling.
It ends up looking like stainless, or polished aluminum. Runs cooler & holds up great.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has has anyone ever dealt with Swain Tech?
http://www.swaintech.com/}

They claim there coating is a true ceramic coating and has the thickest coating..

Like all of Swain Tech’s coatings,
White Lightning™ is a performance improving coating. What makes White Lightning™ the best perfor-mance exhaust coating?

1) White Lightning™ really is ceramic so the material is a superior insulating material.

2) White Lightning is applied much thicker than any of the cosmetic coatings. White Lightning™ is applied about .015” thick compared to about .002” thick for the cosmetic coatings. Because White Lightning™
is the best insulating material and it
is applied thicker than any other coating, White Lightning™ offers performance improvements that cannot be matched.

Many companies apply the shiny or colored paint based coatings and call them ceramic. Those thin shiny coatings are very different than Swain Tech’s White Lightning™.

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Whereas it would be more accurate to call those thin shiny coatings good high temperature paints that may have a very small amount added to them, Swain really uses a ceramic coating that is applied molten where it bonds and cools directly on the substrate.

After heat has performed its function in the combustion chamber, it travels out the exhaust port and into the exhaust header or manifold. If the gases are allowed to cool they lose velocity and the scavenging effect is reduced. By insulating the exhaust system, gases inside are kept at the highest possible temperature resulting in greater exhaust gas velocity and higher efficiency.

White Lightning™ insulating headers typically reduces radiant heat by about 35-55%. This reduction in radiant temperature will decrease under hood and cockpit temperatures. Lower under hood temperatures lead to lower intake temperatures.

A 10°F reduction in intake air temperature provides a 1% increase in horsepower.
A 30°F reduction equates to a 3% horsepower increase.

Because White Lightning™ really is a ceramic, it is not possible to offer color choices like you can get with paint based coatings. However, the white textured finish of White Lightning™ makes it an ideal base for a good high temperature paint if you want to change the color of the coating. The high temperature paints bond well to the natural textured finish of White Lightning and the paint will not impact the effectiveness or durability of the White Lightning™ coating.

How durable is the coating? It is so durable that you would need to grind it off to remove it and it would take a significant amount of time to grind the coating off in one small area. If you mar the coating with wrenches you tighten up the header to the motor or against the frame rails when you guide the motor into place you will not damage the coating. You can make that area that was marred shiny, but it will not damage the coating or degrade its insulating value


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