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Dark_angel01
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just bought an 04 xb12r and am very excited to start modifying it. I wasn't sure if 130hp is a realistic mark to shoot for so I figured I would ask and see what kind of performance gains you guys are getting by switching to the buell pro series pipe or the D&D setup and running a power commander or any other mods that might get my new bike a little power.
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can hit 130, but your definately gonna need more that external mods. Much more.
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Ponytail
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have ya tried installing one of those mexican jockey's yet?


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Olinxb12r
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are looking for a little more power you can get it from exhaust, filter, and the ECM. If you are looking for 130 hp you're going to need a lot more than that. You'll need a large big bore kit and all of the goodies that you can get with it, new sprockets and a set of steel balls. Shazam (screen name) here in KC has a ton of stuff in his 9r, and I'm sure he is probably somewhere close to 130 hp. Look him up in the KCLW or the KC Mob and he may be able to help you out. Keep in mind that you will void all warranties and no longer have a reliable road warrior. You're bike will change before your eyes in to a hot rod, and you'll experience everything that goes with a hot rod to do it.
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I remember right he's around 117 HP. To get 130 HP and be a daily rider well.....????
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Daves
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is going to be a long and expensive list!

If that is what you really want to do though, go for it!
There are sponsors here that can do it for you.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matt,
If you are seriously interested in a big bore big HP street engine for your Buell, please give the folks at Cycle Rama and Revolution Performance a call. You are going to be looking at an 88" or 90" kit along with high performance cams, intake, and exhaust system upgrades.


I've ridden two 88" big bore Buell's, each putting down 130 RWHP and each built for the street. One was Pammy's own Cycle Rama special X1, the other was a product of Brian Nallin's efforts and oversight.

Longevity? Definitely an issue relative to a stock configuration, but also depends largely on how you ride and maintain it. The torque which stresses the drivetrain is as much or more of an issue as the HP at higher revs.

Besides just going big bore, there is always nitrous or turbo-charging. : )

Fun stuff. : ) Let us know whatever you decide. : )



Olin,
Sam's engine may have started life as an XB9R mill, but it has been big-bored and stroked to 88" (1440cc). I believe Dana's recollection is correct. Sam's dyno chart shows 117.6 RWHP.
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Dark_angel01
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks guys for all of the input I wasn't sure if that was a realistic goal or not I'm leaning more towards not. I am really curious to see how much you actually gain by going to the buells pro series pipe, ecm, and airbox kit. Is it really worth the money or should I just ride it the way it is. Also this is my first Buell I haven't even ridden the bike yet. I don't pick it up for 2 more weeks(yes I am going CRAZY!!!). I am used to jap inline fours and am use to bikes that have no torque. Thanks for all the great info guys that big bore kit sounds awsome!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You might want to check out what Al at American Sport Bike has been working on with direct link and the micron pipe.
He has been working with Terry from Vallejo H-D/Buell on the project.
They are currently getting 100rwhp. With no internal mods. It should be available to the public very soon.

I'm sure Daves at Appleton would be happy to sell you a package deal with a pre-programed ecm, pipe and filter.

It is a good time to own a Buell.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MORE CUBIC INCHES!!!

Anything else is just asking to spend 2 hours in the garage for every hour riding.

Racebikes can spin up to put out that kinda HP - but they are never more than a half mile away from "home" if they break down.
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd shoot for 115RWHP and a fat power curve. You can do that and still be reliable IMO.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have Micron,remapped ecm,filter packages in stock!
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Dark_angel01
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do you have dyno specs for this setup and how much does it cost?
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Max
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave how much is that package?
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186bigtwin
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's alot of 88 inchers out there with more than 130rwhp look at the web sites for Revolution Performance up in Wisconsin or Cyclerama down in Tampa, they both can produce around 135rwhp, the dyno charts list most of the mods like cams, pipes and who did the heads. I hear Wes Brown can tune the last pony out of em. one thing new Revo. has a 90 inch kit with the new Nickasil/ Aluminum cylinders, Bigger is Bigger and could unshroud the vales a little bit more.
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

130hp, wow that will cost ya.

Ya, I think Shazams is either 117hp or 120hp. Just say it wasn't a cheap mod.
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ride it first, mod it later.

Really, why does everyone "NEED" more power, half of us cannot even ride the bike to its potential off the floor, how bout we improve our riding skills instead?

Not trying to hijack your post, but who cares how much power it has if you still cant use it all?
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Buell_892
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you just put new heads on.. like stage 2 or something heads and get much out of it?

Assuming you already have exhaust and intake squared away
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to agree with New12r.
Making more power is great if...
1)You've GOT to keep up with the Jones'
2)You're a racer and you've taken the bike to the limit and still NEEDED more
3)The ricer boyz have gotten to you
4)You've got to compensate for small...
I have an XB9S and to be honest I've only been to the limit of the bike in a straight line.
Others have been to their limit trying to keep up in the twisties...
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

trade it for a well used HAYABUSA. that should give you all the Horsepower you want.
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Ryker77
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

110-120hp is doable.. that extra 10hp to get from 120 to 130 is the hardest.

exhaust, intake, cams, lifters, pushrods, pistons, heads, rocker arms, most important-- properly installed, properly set up, properly tuned. parts alone at least 1500.00 at least! Not counting machine work on the heads. So do you really want 130hp when its going to cost you 3-4g's???

also pay attention.. some of the high powered Buells are using a carb not FI..



just get a nice pipe, air box mods, and proper tuning.. ride and enjoy.
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Dana P.
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Want that 130 HP then here is the part number. 1-(920)-892-2109 !!! this will get you there.
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Chance
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, buy a Yamaha R1
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell_892 Heads alone will show some improvement, but a balanced package is where it's at.
Set a goal and design the engine to meet that goal. Throwing dollars at it without a plan will
only end in disappointment.
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Buelldyno_guy
Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In March I will be starting a 1500 / 90 inch XB12. The parts will all be from Brian at Rev Perf and will be used to develop the Big Bore DL MAP. I am hoping it will come close to 125RWHP. You can get a head start by using the Micron American Sport Bike Open AirBox and a direct link ECM. But be aware Brian will be selling the ECM with the Big Bore Kit and it will include a Big Bore Micron MAP. If you get the ECM elsewhere they will need to develop the MAP. ... Terry
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