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Keys
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have HD SYN3 20W/50 and need to add a little to get the oil back to full. Is there some commonly available synthetic oil that I'd be likely to find at an auto store that would be OK to mix in with the HD?

THANKS!
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Guzzimon
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All synths work fine together -- don't worry.

If you need a bit more detergent in the mix, throw some Rislone in there. It's blue -- it must be magical.

Regards,

the gimp
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Keys
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Guzzimon, the dealership told me any oil syn would be ok as long as it was made for motorcycles. Do I really need it motorcycle specific? Also what is Rislone and how do you know if you need more detergent?

thanks again!
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keys, lots of folks here have had no problems running Mobil-1 15W-50 auto synthetic. It used to come with a distinctive red cap, but in the latest formulation ("extended mileage"), the cap isn't red any more. It's available at Wally World and most auto parts stores.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

watch out for "energy conserving" oils. They have additives in them that act as "friction modifiers."
These are not clutch friendly. If you are unsure you are probably safer sticking to motorcycle specific oils.
Hope this helps.
As long as it's synthetic oil it should mix just fine with the H-D stuff.
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Guzzimon
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keys -

You can get Rislone -- an oil additive -- at most any auto parts store.

As I run RedLINE 50W in my V11 and my XB9R, I put a half quart of Rislone in the mix at every change (straight weight oils have no detergents in them -- so I'm compensating).

Do the same thing (straight 50 RedLINE and Rislone) in my Chevy Avalanche for 70,000 trouble-free miles.

As the Guzzis don't share fluids b/w motor and transmission, motorcycle-specific oil is not necessary.

Luck to ya...

v50
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Kootenay
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

watch out for "energy conserving" oils. They have additives in them that act as "friction modifiers."
These are not clutch friendly.


Why would you worry about that in a Buell, where the engine and transmission oils are separate? (as long as you don't put "energy conserving" oil in the tranny...)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

kootenay, my bad, I have been working on a gixxer lately and got turned around.
some people run regular oil, not gear oil, in the primary. My comments would be applicable there.
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Kootenay
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK thanks, I was just wondering if there was something going on I wasn't aware of.

I generally run 15W40 diesel oil in my Yamaha, since I have it around and it seems to work well. I run H-D oil in my Buell, and will until the warranty runs out, just to cover my you know what.
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Xbolt12
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The owners guide specs using diesel oil in emergencies. Check it-it will tell what grade to look for and what weight.
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Odinbueller
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Be careful mixing synthetics! Anytime you add a different oil to your sump, you should dump & refill ASAP. Mixing Mobil1 with Syn3 (Proprietary synthetic blend for H-D made by Citgo Petroleum) is NOT recommended. Remember, the Syn3 has additives to work in H-D transmission & primary chaincases, so there may be additives that will adversely react to another blend added to the mix.
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