| Author | Message | ||
     Csg_Inc |
Henrik Why not get a 9R and put foot pegs from the 9S on it... | ||
| Mikep |
XB9R stock muffler weighs 14.0 lbs. XB9R race muffler weights 13.2 lbs. What might a light weight muffler weigh? mikep | ||
| Psychobueller |
Motorcycle.com has a poll on their "news" page about the Firebolt and Blast for owners. Thought maybe you'd like to weigh in. | ||
| Bykergeek |
I chimed in. Sound Off Troops! | ||
| Timbo |
Psyco, I wonder how acurate that poll is? It seems to me just anyone could go in and vote anyway they want. Timbo | ||
| Bykergeek |
I'm sure that is the case Timbo. That's why I left comments. | ||
| Chainsaw |
For Future Reference: Trouble codes may be retrieved without the use of the Digital Technician!  Page 4-8 and 4-9 under section 4.5 of the Firebolt service manual shows how to make a diagnostic test wire with a 2 inch piece of 18 gauge wire and two dohickies of unknown construction (listed as part number 72191-94) With the wire installed between terminal 1 and 2 of the Data Link connector (left side of vehicle, under fairing) turn the ignition switch on and wait 8 seconds for the engine lamp to start flashing. Trouble code is preceded by six rapid flashes, then a 2 second pause, then the first digit, another 2 second pause, and the second digit of the trouble code. It will report multiple codes, and repeat the data string once all codes have been sent. If you fix the problem, you can clear the code using the DigiTech or by completing 50 start and run cycles, which is turning the bike on, running for at least 30 seconds, and shutting it off again. Anybody tried this yet? Anyone know what two part number 72191-94 cost? Seems like it could be a handy thing to have around, and would most likely fit in the stock tool kit.  | ||
| Chainsaw |
Hogman, you have mail... | ||
| Timbo |
Chainsaw says, >>>Page 4-8 and 4-9 under section 4.5 of the Firebolt service manual shows how to make a diagnostic test wire with a 2 inch piece of 18 gauge wire and two dohickies of unknown construction (listed as part number 72191-94)<<< Good find chainsaw. A quick check to my FPM shows part # 72191-94 to be a terminal. It's probably just a simple electical connector that slips onto the pin on the data link. Basically your just making a jumper. It couldn't cost too much and might be a real handy addition to the tool bag. Also, by looking at the picture in the FSM it shows there are four pins to the data link. It might be a good idea to mark corners 1 and 2 with a permanent marker while looking at the manual. That would remove any doubt as to what was what while out on the road, because who know what sort of electrical mayhem might be caused by connecting the wrong two. Timbo 03 XB9R 72 XLCH | ||
| Timbo |
Hey Blake, You never said how tall the dude in the picture is. I'm not too concerned, just curious. FWIW, a good riding friend of mine who did a test ride on Firebolt said he felt very comfortable, and not cramped like he expected. He was surprised cause he is TALL, probably 6'4". Timbo 03 XB9R 72 XLCH | ||
| Chainsaw |
...good plan Timbo! | ||
| Timbo |
More on Data link/retrieving codes, Here is a picture of the data link with terminals 1 and 2 marked for future reference.  Timbo | ||
| Timbo |
Retrieving codes is one thing, knowing what they mean is another. So I made a print out of the codes and meanings, then cut it out to fit snugly into the relay cover just above the data link. I also covered both sides of the print out with plastic tape to prevent it from absorbing/retaining moisture. It looks like this,  Doing this got me wondering just how useful the codes might be while actually out on the road. I figure at the very least they will point you to the trouble at hand, and the fix may be as simple as a loose connector. So I think it's worth doing/having this info available on the bike, on the road. Timbo | ||
| Blake |
 XB9R Ergonomic Model: Six feet tall, 36" inseam, 185 LBs | ||
| X1glider |
It actually looks like it fits for normal riding. Is that yer bud Keith? Wonder how he'd look in a tuck tho. | ||
| Rattler |
So...Timbo...you have that new bike yet...or is it coming? Pics please if you do...I might have missed something on this in earlier posts! PS...any idea how much Firebolt heads cost? Dale A. | ||
| Ken01mp |
the bike looks a little small to me, and im an inch taller. definately wonder about a tuck on it, guys with guts need not apply i guess. he's like two and a half feet above that windshield, no wonder cycle word bitched about wind buffeting. maybe if that seat was one more inch to the rear,........ | ||
| X1glider |
From what I can tell when I sat on it, the XB9R is very forward weight biased when the rider is on it. Its supposed to be 52/48 without the rider but I'll bet it's about 62/38 with the rider. If the seat was a little more rearward, I can imagine the rear end would stay planted better. The more upright posture on the 9S might shift that bias back a little bit. I still have yet to ride one tho. Stevep wasn't giving demo rides in Colorado! Smart move with that bunch! ![:]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) | ||
| Anonymous |
No it's not 62/38 with rider, not even close. It's actually 49/51 with a 180 lb rider tucked in. Sit up it gets to 48/52, sit up and slide forward for cornering bite, and it becomes just about 50/50. Yeah, that's one of the many reasons why the handling is so good! | ||
| Ken01mp |
so, it starts out biased to the front, then you add a 180 lb rider leaning forward, and it becomes biased to the back? what kind of 180 lb rider is that? five foot nothing tall? what about a rider over six feet? please elaborate anon, im not following the logic | ||
| X1glider |
I'd have to put one (full wet) on a set of scales to believe that. Draw a line midway through the pic above. It looks like all the heavy stuff is in the front half. Add to that the above rider and his upper body mass and I'll bet the weight bias is NOT 50/50. I realize that the website touts the bias as anony says, but they skew stuff all the time. Other mfrs do too. I'll make it a point to check this out the next time I'm at the dealer. | ||
| Timbo |
Dale, Yep, I have it! I posted some pics in the "adventure/people pics" section a couple days ago, Look there. I'll get back to you about the XB heads. Timbo | ||
| Timbo |
Dale, Better directions to the pics would be, go to "cool Buell pics" section, then click on "People Action/Adventure pics" then scroll down a little. Timbo | ||
| Anonymous |
Ken01 and X1, It's the facts, guys. Pure and simple. With a 5'11' rider. That's the reality of the XB. You can argue, but I am correct. The majority of the riders legs and main lower torso are behind the cg of the bike. | ||
| Court |
>>> Draw a line midway through the pic above Should read: Draw a line midway through the CG in the pic above Hint boys: (and I a PURE ASS guessing based on prior info which may or may not have been accurate) Draw a vertical line that runs THROUGH the base of the rear cylinder where it meets the crankcase. Then start ciphering. | ||
| Ray_Maines |
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| X1glider |
He isn't in a tuck in the pic. But I digress, your electronic dissection of the bike looks better than I thought! | ||
| Court |
Ray: Excellent illustration and you are dead on right. I printed the picture, cut neatly down the line and placed both pieces on a calibrated beam balance. I love science. Court | ||
| Blake |
I agree with anon, draw a verticle line midway between both axles. It is pretty obvious that the CG of the 6' rider shown is behind that line and would not be forward of the CG even when tucked in. Midpoint appears to be somewhere just aft of the shifter linkage. The only body parts forward of that line are the rider's arms, head, and kneecaps. I think the rest of his body probably weighs significantly more. | ||
| Blake |
I gotta quit loading these pages and then waiting hours before reading/replying. Note also that the rider has a 32" waist. What might appear to be gut, is simply a poofy unzipped jacket. Note also that the rider has a good two inches to scoot back when going into a tuck. I'm 6'-3" with a long torso and I can tuck in on the XB9R just fine. |
