| Author | Message | ||
     Lous_v2 |
I was just wondering what exhaust cans do you have and how you like it on the track. I run the Race can and it seems to do fine on the track, but would like to hear what others think that have other exhaust systems such as D&D, Drummer and so on. I am looking at the D&D for the sound but didn't want to hurt performance in the upper RPM range at the track. Your personal experience's would be appreciated. Lou | ||
| Skully |
I have the D&D and like it for its mid-range punch and percussive sound. It is not a top end muffler. Keith | ||
| Spatten1 |
I use the Drummer and like it due to the power spread. I really lug it in the early part of long curves and can stay on the throttle without shifting. | ||
| Deuceman |
I am running a Latus. It was great on the top end at the track. I still had plenty of torque a little lower going into the curves. Not to mention the looks of the people working corners when I went by cracking the throttle open. I don't think they are available any more, but check with Al at American Sportbike. This is on an XB9R. I don't know of anyone running one on an XB12. | ||
| Ortegakid |
Odie special ops, sounds awesome, works great, lots of power, great guy! | ||
| Lous_v2 |
Hey, thanks for the responses. Decisions, decisions. Keith, what happens with the D&D in the upper RPM range? Is it that noticeable? From what I've read the Drummer SS is good at pretty much any RPM. Less shifting at the track is a good thing for me. Lou | ||
| Daves |
I run the race kit. Probably have a D+D next season. | ||
| Moxb12r |
I run a D&D with Race ECM and love it. | ||
| Skully |
Lou, The D&D is tuned for mid-range and as a result, it does not make the power that some of the other mufflers make at the top end. When I purchased mine, there weren't as many choices as there are now. On the track near where I live, Oak Hill Raceway, the are not many straights. It is a tight, technical track. A strong mid-range, good handling, and rider skill will do far better here than a high horsepower bike. I have all but the rider skill... We have SV650s that routinely out-run IL4 600s and 1000s. Do you ride this bike any on the street or is it strictly a track bike? Keith | ||
| Steve899 |
Keith said " I have all but the rider skill" . Keith I've seen your on track video, I would have to disagree with your statement. When it comes to Sportbikes its all about the turns, Top end is fun, but there is nothing like dragging a knee! ! | ||
| Lous_v2 |
Keith, it does double duty...Street and track. I'm new to the track scene. I've run at the Spring Mountain Motorsports track in Pahrump, NV. It is a very technical track with lots of turns and a small straight. It's pretty much 2nd and 3rd gear the whole time then 4th in the straight for me. Lou | ||
| Mr_cuell |
Hey Daves - or anyone else - I don't see the Drummer SS getting lots of love - why is that? I am thinking of getting one for its looks, sound and power. What does the D&D have that the Drummer doesn't equal or better? | ||
| Skully |
Steve - You always make my day (Steve filmed the video that he is referring to and had to let off the throttle several times to keep from running me over!) Lou - That being the case, you may want to look at mufflers that emphasize mid-range power. I originally purchased the D&D because I rarely hit the rev limiter on the street. The Drummer was not available at the time so it was not even on my list. Here is a picture of Oak Hill Raceway, a 1.8 mile track in East Texas (where Steve is King!):  Since you plan to continue riding on the street (like me), look for what you think is the best value. Look objectively at construction, materials, cost, sound, and where power is made. You may want to consider BadWeB sponsors as well. I think most will be glad to provide dyno charts supporting their claims. However, understand that runs on different dynos and different bikes may not be comparing apples to apples but will give you an idea as to how and were the muffler makes power. I notice you have a XB12. Have you seen the testing Al at American Sportbike is doing? By properly mapping the Buell (!) ECM and using the Micron full exhaust system, he is getting 100 RWP out of the stock motor with tons of torque! Let me know if I can help in any way, Keith (Message edited by skully on January 04, 2006) | ||
| Skully |
Here is the link to the video that Steve is referring to: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/Videos/KET%20at%20OHR%2011-12-05.wmv It is 7 or 8 megs and can be downloaded in about 15 minutes by dialup. Promise not to make fun of my mistakes... Keith (Message edited by skully on January 04, 2006) | ||
| Daves |
Mr. Cuell I haven't seen or heard a SS Drummer in person but I have no doubt it is a good pipe. I like the sound of the D+D. Has a nice mid-range punch. The brackets for the chin fairing are welded directly to the muffler. I am not a big fan of additional brackets and I like the chin fairing on the bike. The two are about the same price. I sell the D+Ds for 536.36 I think the Drummer is about 500.00? Both are good choices in my opinion. Take your pick. | ||
| Lous_v2 |
Thanks, Keith....I'm still thinking D&D. If we could only get a track, all the different mufflers, to compare sound and power, and the same bike to put them on and then let us all take each one for a ride........ Lou | ||
| Adrenaline_junkie |
Well yes. Me, my bike and half a dozen slip ons setting beside the toolbox that I can install and then take for a spin to see how I like each would be excellent. I'd be happy if some wealthy individual would do this for me on their bike while making sound bites of each pipe. Maybe at a drag strip. Here is what pipe "x" sounds like idling and revving up for the GO light, accelerating through the 1/4 mile and decelerating back down. I've heard sound bites on a couple of the pipes, but they always seem to be parked and just get revved up a few times. Yep, a nice scientific test with one bike and one sound recording device mounted on one place on the bike would make a lot decisions easier. I'll keep on dreaming I guess. |
