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José_Quiñones
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 02:08 pm: | 
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True, but still worth checking out.
Costa modified the STOCK muffler internally, I don't think he touched the chin spoiler or muffler mounts. |
Blake
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 05:19 pm: |
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JQ,
I guess I should have said "XB9R streetbike".  How could he not have "touched the muffler mounts"? He mounted an entirely homemade header and gutted his stock muffler. he had that thing completely torn apart. He also mounted a chain drive. On an all out racebike, you darn well better check over everything before each race.
You seem to have taken on an antagonistic attitude towards Buell. |
José_Quiñones
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 08:31 pm: |
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No, I'm just pointing out a potential cause to the problem Wayne is having, which has been documented in one instance on the same bike that he owns. |
José_Quiñones
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 08:33 pm: |
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If I was trying to be antagonistic, I would have said something like "Wayne I know what the problem is: You bought a BUELL." |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 08:54 pm: |
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Wayne, as an owner of a much worked on, sometimes under warranty, S1W, if you have any problems with any aspect of your warranty, beyond the control of your dealer, call Buell UK. Often, and I'm not blowing smoke up their arse, they have stepped up to the plate beyond any warranty they've ever put in writing. This isn't just for me either. I know of plenty of other Buellers, past and present, that have had far more help (justifiable or otherwise) from Buell UK, than I dare say any other motorcycle manufacturer would have offered on their machines, by way of comparison. Remember the Busa collapsing subframes ? Suzuki made the owners pay for that 'warranty' issue !
Having said that, Buell UK won't thank me for saying so, and yes I've had my 'run-ins' with them too !
Don't mention my name, even though they are lurking 
Rocket  in England |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 03:15 am: |
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JQ,
Am I oversensitive or what?! Geesh! |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 06:46 am: |
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>>>>Am I oversensitive or what?! Geesh!
Absolutely not, you've simply graduted to curmudgeon status. |
Newfie_Buell
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 07:42 am: |
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I can also add to Rocket's posative experience with Buell. My S1 has had some minor problems, Buell and the dealer have supported these issues without question.
Instead of complaining to the world lets hear how they treat you and your problems, I am sure they will work things out for you. I can understand your pain as you have purchased a new machine expecting it to be 100% problem free, but remember we are all not YET perfect. |
Stormfool
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 12:50 pm: |
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Have to add--took an XB9S for a demo ride and the engine blew up--about two mile walk back to dealer.
Shit happens. Neat bike, though--but My X1 would still trounce it
Have to say, Wayne, same thoughts run through my mind every time my X1 gets another problem--but as I've modified the bike from stock I figure it's just "karma"
But listen to what these experienced Buellers say about Buell CS whether in the UK or US (Florida for me)--there is relief from poor dealerships and ways around even the good ones (at least that's what I keep telling myself)
Keep us up on your travails with Direbolt |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 01:43 pm: |
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>>>>took an XB9S for a demo ride and the engine blew up
"blew up" is a term I generally associate for Nypak and Claymore mines....tell us more.
Pieces out of the crankcase ?
Oil everywhere?
Fuel exhaustion ?
This is the first report of any significant mechanical concern with a Firebolt...sure be interesting to know what happened? The last time I heard of an INDIVIDUAL bike blowing up, new at a dealers, was the guy in Tulsa who didn't know the bike was in mid-oil change and the plug had been placed back in to keep it from dripping. Bike logged 12 dandy miles of abuse before writing it's own obit.
Court |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 02:48 pm: |
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Storm,
That's terrible news. How many miles had the Lightning logged when it "blew up"? Yeah, what court asked. Would you please describe what happened? |
Wayne
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 02:52 pm: |
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Firebolt Update 2100 miles
dealers received bike on tuesday
phoned them at 2pm was told faults rectified
electrical problem was short in speed sensor/wiring
fuel injection needed resetting
rumbling clanking from bottom end , primary chain was slack,adjusted and was told it could have contributed to bad gear change
side stand on order
rerouting cable from battery to avoid chaffing problem
had good service from dealer who are Riders of Bridgewater UK
they are dropping bike back next tuesday after a bit of disscussion
Buell uk were good in the handling of my complaints and they also got involved at dealer level
I do hope that this will be the last of my problems with the firebolt and have decided to
keep it as the good points outweigh the bad.
on the point of Bitchin to the rest of the world
I am very passionate about motorbikes and if that
resulted in a posting that annoyed people .
I cannot help that ,it is what I felt at the time of the posting and now that certain problems have been resolved [hopefully as I have not had bike back yet to check it]I still believe that these problems should have been sorted out before they left the factory because of buells past rep people will look at any product they launch with care
I will see what happens in the future
on a different subject
the new XB9S has an article about it in MCN
[UK weekly bike paper]
has a good write up but they still bring up issue about reliability
also there is a V Rod stripped down ,chain conversion 0-112mph in 8.7secs
faster to 60mph than a Duke 999
Wayne
in a better mood
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Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 04:39 pm: |
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Glad it worked out for you Wayne.  |
Rocketman
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:08 pm: |
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Wayne, I agree with you on the XB9R. They should be problem free, but the circumstances that would appear to surround your Buell sound to me like that of a bike that doesn't seem to have been pre-delivery inspected with enough care.
Rocket |
Stormfool
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:28 pm: |
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Glad to hear the positive outcome Wayne--hang in there--and tell us how she runs when you can.
XB9S I rode had something over 300 miles on it--having been ridden the day before by the service manager on his day off extensively--
I was under the impression it had been broken-in--I was told to "ride the piss out of it" by the guy handing me the keys--
Hey I feel bad about breaking that lovely machine but what the heck--it's a demo mule--I have deep feelings for machines--even tools--I've been a yacht carpenter for fifteen years and a tinkerer and gearhead forever
The good news is Buell is providing another engine for the XB and it will be out there promoting in a few days.
The Service Manager was less agreeable than the Salesmen who demos the bike--he seemed to think no one would ride a bike with three hundred miles on it at 90-100 MPH--shit I didn't even look at the odometer--it was in clock mode and I didn't fuss with it
He said he found the pistons in the airbox--draw your own conclusions.
Other than touching 100 over the 17th street bridge in Ft. Laud for an instant, I rode the bike
fast but no more than 50 in the citywide 35 zone.
God knows I babied my old Triumph for 1000 miles before even attempting WOT runs since I'd already mushroomed the pistons in ignorance some time before...
Got to wonder why they don't break it in before handing it out to heavyhanded monkies like me? |
Mikej
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:34 pm: |
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"He said he found the pistons in the airbox--draw your own conclusions."
My conclusion is that if the pistons were truely inside the airbox then it's a good thing nothing seized with those piston rods flailing around detached from the pistons causing the rear tire to lock up and causing all sorts of nastyness to your riding gear.
See if you can post a pic of the airbox with the pistons in it. |
Newfie_Buell
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:04 pm: |
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Thats something I would like to see. |
Darthane
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:55 pm: |
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LOL...sucks to be you, Wayne. I love mine. 5800 miles and not a single damned thing wrong with it. |
Kevyn
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 08:15 pm: |
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...So they had to strip it and chain it to get it to out run a 999 through the 1/4 mile...wait until the V-Rod gets into the first set of turns!
It's like rolling apples and oranges, why oh why to they even make such comparisons? |
Blake
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:45 am: |
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Stormfool,
What dealership was that? |
Wayne
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:45 am: |
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I was just comparing straight line speed 0-60mph
not the handling not the braking
the duke would of course outhandle and out brake
the v rod and have a higher top end
Wayne |
Rudebike
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 03:21 pm: |
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Wayne,
Your initial post did indeed offend me. However, since you are now behaving in a manner that I find adequate, I have faxed off a letter to President Bush informing him that I no longer wish to have the US ambasssador to the UK recalled.
Thankfully, we can all put this ugly business behind us and move on with our lives. |
Stormfool
| | Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:29 am: |
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Blake--
Fart Slaughterdale here in Sunny Florida (Ft. Lauderdale Harley Davidson/Buell)
I've been told by several people that I now have the ignominity of being the first person to trash an XB9S engine (that was full of oil) |
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