| Author | Message | ||
     Trojan |
We eventually retrieved our bike from the show in Birmingham and managed to get it on the dyno. The bike only has around 100 miles on it so far so we didn't go berserk with it. The bike is fitted with a Micron full system, K&N filter, Ultimate (open) airbox, and RapidBike adjustable ECM module. As you can see by the charts, the results are very promising so far. The Dynostar dyno normally record figures around 2bhp less than the Dynojet equivalent. Interestingly, we spent a very long time adjusting the fuel between 2500rpm and 3500rpm to get the AF ratio better. Initially it ran very lean up to 3500 and we ended up adding a significant amount of fuel at that point to get the lower chart.   Next day the journalist from the MCN took the bike out on test to Croft circuit and the North Yorkshire countryside, so I'll post some gratuitous wheelie pics later   | ||
| Rubberdown |
I'm thinking that tq curve looks great. | ||
| Fl_billy |
"I'm thinking that tq curve looks great." Yup, not much of a curve there at all.....NICE!!!!! | ||
| M1combat |
Ford's 351 Cleveland was the engine responsible for the term "Torque Plateau". We have another one . (Message edited by M1Combat on November 10, 2005) | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Used to have a 351 Cleveland in my 1973, ( I think it might have been), DeTomaso Pantera. Ran very nicely once I took the pollution control stuff off, ( and put out less pollution too:-). That is one very nice looking torque curve. | ||
| M1combat |
Yeah, I have one in my '72 Mach 1. It has power EVERYWHERE. It's a very fun car. I spun the rear main bearing at an indicated ~9250RPM... That was stock with about 95K miles. With a little but well known (but not to me at the time) oiling mod it wouldn't have happened. The tacho may be off that high, but even if it was off by 750, 8500RPM out of a big small block is pretty damned good from the factory . I got to just about 100MPH and then looked down and realized I had pulled the trans into 2nd instead of D. That pissed me off... | ||
| Mountainrider |
I had a 71 Mach 1 with the 351 Cleveland and it was a great vehicle. When the Ram Air opened up that baby would cook. But I like the Uly motard better. | ||
| Blake |
Wow! She never drops below 70 FT-LBs from 2,500 RPM on up! So should we expect a write-up from MCN in an upcoming issue? Hope so. Thanks Matt. | ||
| Tomd |
Don, 9250 RPM on those itty-bitty 5/16" rod bolts on your 351-2v??? :-) I would say your tach broke before your engine did... <G> Sorry, couldn't resist. Now if you want "torque plateau" check out the Banks turbo "sidewinder project" a Dodge Dakota that has 1300 Ft/Lbs of torque, goes 200+MPH and gets 22 MPG Tom | ||
| Uhmeebuh |
I can't even tell you how AWESOME this bike is... I've wanted a motard for a while but they are just too narrowly focused - but THIS is the answer! Dear Buell - Please make me one. I'll pay cash. | ||
| Glitch |
Please make me one. I'll pay cash. Build yourself one. You'll end up with a unique bike, and the satisfaction of doing it yourself. Not to take anything away from Trojan, but what he's done isn't that difficult, or maybe that's the point. As far as I know all the parts used to build the Uly above, is available from Trojan. Or, if you'd like I'll build you one for cash  | ||
| Uhmeebuh |
It's basically a Ulysses with a Ss tail right? Obviously that's oversimplification but that's what it looks like... | ||
| Race_pirate |
Im real interested to see the feed back on the SM Uly, The power looks great, I could iron my work shirts on that Tq curve(or line..) Bike looks all business. Hey M1, spinning tires must result in spinning bearings!!!, I spun a main bearing recently in my 65' Plymouth. Of course its a good excuse to finally rebuild the 69' 440 thats been in the back of my garage for 2 years and pull the 383 out....  | ||
| Glitch |
It's basically a Ulysses with a Ss tail right? Basically, with a few other mods, are you ready for me to take your order?  | ||
| Trojan |
It's basically a Ulysses with a Ss tail right? Obviously that's oversimplification but that's what it looks like.. Here is a full list of parts to build one the same Micron Full exhaust system Adrenalin-Moto Ultimate Airbox kit K&N Filter Vented outer airbox cover Adrenalin-Moto Exhaust Valve Emulator (allows removal of stock exhaust valve motor Rapid-Bike fully adjustable ECU XB12SS seat and undertray fitted to stock Ulysses subframe RRC Short aluminium tail section and light. 28mm handlebar riser conversion Universal Solex Fat Bars CYCRA Pro-Bend billet handguards CRG billet Roll a Click brake/clutch levers Adrenalin-Moto Carbon front upper mudguard Adrenalin-Moto Carbon front lower mudguard Adrenalin-Moto carbon rear hugger LSL steering damper Crossroads Performance Billet gear/brake pedals Billet footpegs Rizoma Billet grips Rizoma Billet mirrors Glassfibre flyscreen and side scoops. Custom battery box and seat latch. That's about it I think. All the parts are of course available from us | ||
| Uhmeebuh |
Thanks for sharing Trojan! Glitch - will you take a money order from my Nigerian Uncle?  | ||
| Djkaplan |
"I would say your tach broke before your engine did..." It sounds like a fish story to me, but what the hell, I wasn't there. Still sounds fishy... | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Mat, Very nice bicycle indeed. Congratulations. I was just wondering about the Rapid Bike, and other fuel injection modifiers like the Power Commander and the TFI. With the stock race ecm and muffler which I have on my XB9S, the fuel injection " learns' the ambient conditions when running in fifth at 3200 rpm for a minute or so. When tuning the Rapid Bike, how does the bike "learn" the ambient conditions during dyno tuning, and subsequently, in regular use? | ||
| Glitch |
I *think* the Rapid-Bike is a piggy-back system, as is the TFI and PCIII. So they modify the signal going to the EFI, that's why it important to use the Standard ECM rather than the Race ECM. | ||
| Buellerthanyou |
Trojan, Very cool! Question: what does the Adrenalin-Moto exhaust valve emulator do? I added a Buell race kit to my 12R and I just pulled the cable from the muffler/airbox and unplugged the short electrical harness from the airbox to the main wiring harness. So far everything seems fine. Also, is the crash-plate on the bottom a one-off or is it available too? And finally, I, too, am interested in hearing more about the Rapid Bike thingy... Cheers, HellBuelly J "We shall wheelie on the beaches. We shall wheelie on the landing grounds. We shall wheelie in the fields and in the streets. We shall wheelie in the hills. We shall never surrender!" --Winston "Buelldog" Churchill | ||
| Trojan |
Very cool! Question: what does the Adrenalin-Moto exhaust valve emulator do? If you keep the stock ECM and remove the exhaust valve motor you'll get a fault light illuminated. This device just fools the stock ECM into thinking the motor is still there and you don't get the warning light. If you have the race kit ECM then you don't need it, as that disables the valve/motor anyway. I *think* the Rapid-Bike is a piggy-back system, as is the TFI and PCIII. So they modify the signal going to the EFI, that's why it important to use the Standard ECM rather than the Race ECM. Sort of, although It connects into the loom BEFORE the stock ECM, rather than after such as the TFi and PCIII. | ||
| The_bob |
I must say, I've never liked the Uly until I saw that pic. Nice work | ||
| Ivanski |
Any more ULY supermoto pic's out there?? I'd love to see it from some other angles. | ||
| Trojan |
here are a few more :      | ||
| Hobanbrothers |
See this DaveS, now imagine this with a set of ice tires? That is what I am talking about!! Can we, huh? can we dad? | ||
| Hobanbrothers |
Dave, Do I need to get on building a set of tires??? | ||
| Yamahammer490 |
The Uly Supermoto is awesome! I've been trying to talk "the chief" into letting me get a bike for a while now and this Uly supermoto has really pushed me over the edge. (Fortunately I live about 15 miles from DaveS' office, so it WILL happen this spring.) I'm a recovering dirt bike rider and couldn't resist putting number plates and a proper dirt bike rear fender on the Uly. I hope ya'll like the artistic license I took with it.  | ||
| Trojan |
Here are a couple of pics from the Motor Cycle news test session. The pics are scanned from the paper so aren't great. I'll post some better ones once they send me the disc   The smoke in the bottom left pic is coming from the rear tyre spinning |
