| Author | Message | ||
     Chillistick |
Blake, You are a self proclaimed possessor of intelligence and as such i would like to know how a man concludes that a part does not work without physically ever seeing one. Or have you seen a Power Pod installed and operational and if so is this where you derive you comments from? Or is it fair to say that you seek to erode the product because you have a personal problem with one of the ABR forum members? Personality's aside do you feel that you are in a position to qualify whether the pod works or not based on the fact and i repeat fact that you have never seen one in the flesh. If so can you explain how you arrive at this conclusion from inspecting a photo that does not show the internals of the pod? Blake do you also feel that banning members of the ABR forum for simply defending products they have purchased and are happy with is fair, honest and filled with integrity? Please feel free to post up IP addresses of all the new members that supported and stood by ABR, let us all know that they are various and many and that no one singular person is behind such things. But of course you can't because that would show that you are manufacturing this campaign against ABR.. Why would you do that? Because ABR would not pay sponsorship and as a result you have chosen to make an example of ABR. An example to show other company's that if you dont meet Blake's demands and pay up you will be dealt with like ABR. Its not about the parts. Its not about any scams because there is none. Its about greedy blake and his sponsorship. I dont want to sponsor Badweb but i do expect to be able to defend my products against negativity put out buy people that have absolutely no factual evidence against me or my parts. Now for the last time, personality's aside anyone on the Badweb have an ABR part that they are not happy with? Anyone been scammed by ABR? Now is your chance to speak up, not the lemmings that blindly support blake to gain status but real concerns, post em up and we can address them. Till then i will defend ABR products whenever they are attacked on Badweb. We did not start this thread we just defend ourselves and we will always do that. If Blake hates ABR thats fine just delete any threads that start with ABR parts. If Blake was not trying to make an example of us then why wont he just delete all ABR threads? Why would he let this thread exist? | ||
| Heads |
Eexb,Pendulum did not ask Blake to convince him he asked. ( i am interested in this part and its gains but i also value Badweb members comments.) so now the people that have purchased the product and recommend it and give it a good rap are jokers to. well i guess u cant have an opinion on non sponsored products here NO-Thats Sad, Eexb but that figures} | ||
| Heads |
so now its turned into personal insults against aussies, has it Buelltroll? thats really good form. | ||
| Chillistick |
As always Buelltroll you offer little relevance to the debate. | ||
| Chillistick |
Buelltroll, What evidence do you have to justify statements that the maker is "shadyass" Yes there is little debate with the comments you offer that are both based on no knowledge, evidence, and are 100% incorrect. There is no point to your comments and they are merely your opinion and are totally untrue. Unless you can produce evidence to back your claims i suggest you retract them. | ||
| Chillistick |
Buelltroll, That is you opinion and based on the FACT that you have no knowledge or experience of ABR, ABR products. Until you do i suggest you keep your opinions on things you do know about. This way your comments will be valid and have basis. | ||
| Cruisin |
There's a HUGE difference between defending your product and selling your product. The problem is that everybody who seems to back this product up seems to appear out of nowhere. There have been several people that have done right and become sponsors (like Odie). Others have had to distribute their wares through a sponsor instead (like how Mike sells the XB catch can through American Sport Bike). There are ways to legitimately do it, and ABR refuses. That's why everybody has a problem with it. (Message edited by CruiSin on October 27, 2005) | ||
| Buelltroll |
That AND its garbage. You can tell just by looking at it like Blake said it will NOT have the results the maker claims and HE is the ONLY one who backs it. He just uses a proxy for different ip addresses and accounts,It's why all the "defenders" are "new" people who have 1 post. Anyway I'm done feeding the trolls. | ||
| Chillistick |
Buelltroll, When you guys attack the product i post it up on ABR forum and i say look at these guys attacking us again. They then join this forum one time only because they have no other interest to join it because they know how misguided most of you are. They then try to defend products and service that they have first hand knowledge about, unlike you. You can believe what you want and stubborn people with little brains like you are rarely told or taught anything different. You are one small minded fool whos comments and posts are nothing but wastes of bandwidth, with no factual basis or intelligent thought contained within. I mean you are so simple minded that you post up on this forum to ask people what you should spend your $500 you have saved on. That in itself shows how much of a follower you are with little ability to think for yourself. cruisin, i have asked blake to delete all thread related to ABR. I dont want ABR on your site, i dont want to advertise on badweb and i dont want to be mentioned here. I only came here like my ABR friends to support myself and not be badmouthed by idiots like buelltroll that know nothing about what they speak. (Message edited by chillistick on October 27, 2005) | ||
| Ndj2 |
Hello again, As "Ndj" I previously placed what I thought was a very reasonable post asking why someone would critisise a product or company without any justification. To my surprise, I was banned from this site! What happened to free speech? I was not trolling, flaming, being abusive or breaking any site rules. It's clear that on this site you either tow the party line or you're gagged. This makes it very hard to get any objective information about products for Buells on this forum. It also makes this site worse than useless unless you're one of the sponsors or operators of the site. My argument is no longer about defending a product but about defending my, and other's, right to free speech. I'd advise anyone seriously interested in Buells to go to either SportTwin, UK Buell Riders, or Aussie Buell Riders. At any of those, you will find people that can discuss anything motorcycle related in an open and honest forum. No one gets banned for disagreeing with the opinions of the sponsors, no one gets flamed or abused for no reason. In the end this forum will only have "yes men" on board plus the usual sprinkling of spotty teenage boys who wish they one day can own a Buell. No-one with anything important to say (or any money to spend) will bother visiting anymore. By the way, don't bother to block this IP (from my wife's work computer) as I won't be posting again from this computer or any other. Oh and watch this post mysteriously disappear as soon as the moderator reads it. Good bye and have a nice life. | ||
| Eexb |
Chilli DICK, "As always Buelltroll you offer little relevance to the debate." How would you know "mate", you just joined this forum !!! This organized attack on Badweb is so transparent you people are a joke !!! You sound like a bunch of Kool Aid drinkers ready to defend a piece of crap to the death !!! You just don't get it - NO ONE HERE CARES ABOUT that stupid, useless velocity "thingie". We also don't care about "contrived" dyno runs or foolish claims. There's no place here for charletons and buffoons. EE | ||
| Chillistick |
I second that motion about Sport Twin, As Corjim2001 i roam there alot and i although Brad (boss of sport twin) and i occassionally disagree on things he still lets me have my say and we all move on. (recent drummer thread for instance)I have my say and opinion others have theres and we agree to disagree, As far as i thought thats what the forum scene is all about as long as people dont get personal and nasty. At ABR i can not once recall anyone being flamed and at Sport Twin a flaming is a once in a few month occurance. Here at BWB its an hourly thing. Interesting how i dont adverise ABR or ABR parts on Sport Twin and they are never brought up and if they are its a one or two post question and then after a few days the thread drops down the list and dies a natural death. Here at badweb if ABR comes up it the usual idiots like the Buelltroll that have nothing better to do then to make up lies, and create rubbish about something they have absolutely no knowledge about. Sad badweb but in the end you will be your own worst enemys. To start with you have practically killed australia as a market. Because all the guys that have come here and defended abr now know that they are silenced and banned. For no reason and that here in Australia is known as Poor Form. | ||
| Eexb |
"Good bye and have a nice life." Does this mean these BUFFOONS are out of here ?? | ||
| Chillistick |
Eexb, You are the buelltrolls brother, nothing you say has much intelligence either. Organised attack BuellerX started this thread (oh wait is that another one of my 50 alias's) maybe you Eexb are an alias and i am arguing with myself. Like i said neither you or the troll have any factual basis for your comments, you have no idea what your talking about and as such you are just making yourself look silly. If you get some data, a shred of evidence or a person that has a power pod and thinks its crap then come back and we can talk. Till then your words are unsubstantiated drivvle | ||
| Cruisin |
There's been plenty of justification... There has been tons of great information posted on this board, and some of it about products not sold by sponsors. If someone posts something they have found or bought, it's fine. There's been a lot of great discussion about products not sold by sponsors. The problem arises when someone falsifies their identity to attempt produce interest in their wares and when that has been brought to light they create more identities to bash BadWeB and others. I'm not a yes man, nor will I ever be. I am intelligent enough to know that others have more knowledge of motorcycles and mechanics to help provide me with a better decision on what I might want to do for mods. Why reinvent the wheel? If someone has done it before then I can gather the data and make my own decision. As far as free speech...it's fine, as long as it follows the rules of the board. You did read that agreement when you signed up for your account, right? It's no different than going to a friends house. There may be things you can do at your house or in public, but when you're in somebody elses house you have to follow their rules - it's the respectful thing to do. | ||
| Eexb |
"Till then your words are unsubstantiated drivvle"} This from a guy who "sneaks" in here under a false ID and lobs insult bombs at everyone. A simple check of profile will show who's a phoney and who isn't. A quick read of threads will indicate who's blowing smoke and who's an established member participating in constructive threads. You my friend are a charleton, a fake, and a rabble rouser who just can't shut up. Even after Blake has told you to go away, you continue to stir the pot. He tried every possible way to allow you to prove your product and advertise it ACCORDING TO THIS FORUM'S RULES and YOU REFUSED. Now you are back under a phoney name spouting the very same swill we have all heard before. It's NOT Buelltroll or Blake or me, it's YOU who post this crap, it's YOU who registers over and over under new usernames and it's YOU who continues to get one time posters to come in here and spread your swill. It's no wonder Blake bans you, go away, we don't care, we don't want to hear anymore LIES, and we are just plain tired of your SWILL. EE | ||
| Chillistick |
Obviously if i want to defend my character and products and business against ill informed people like you then i have to re-register as a different user. How can i come back under the same identity as last time if i get my account banned? Like my friend NDJ had to, once blake bans us for the free speech that you commend, we have no choice but to come back as someone else. Answer this if you had a business and people where badmouthing you and for no reason other then some supposed breach of badweb rules wouldnt you come back and defend yourself? I still point out the obvious, we did not start this thread, you guys "the badwebbers" started it we simply came here to stand up for ourselves. You dont want us to come here then dont bring up our parts, dont talk about them. We did not bring them up you guys did remember that..... one more time, you guys brought this up, you guys put it on your site. I reserve the right to defend myself, my products and my friends and if you guys dont like that then its simple. dont bring up anymore threads about my parts. now has it sunken into your heads this time. | ||
| Hogs |
HEy Chilly, I heard ya got some big Sharks over your way, Why not go for a Swim...ITS ppl. like YOU that give the rest of your mates a BAD name.. btw i`m from Canada And I love where you are from But ppl. like you I can do without, Just tired of listening to all your BAd...NOW get out and stay the $#@% OUT...!!!!!!!! Can you understand that!!! 35 years of riding Bikes and messing with cars etc.etc. And Just looking at that product tells me its not up too speed with regards to what else is out there, OH Looks like something a kid wd. dream up Now take it and put it on your LAwn Mover , But then again it may make cutting your grass a tad bit harder, maybe thats whats wrong too much GRASS..! Dreamer.. Nothing but a Dreamer..LoL Now be like a kid you are and respond to this ...PERIOD | ||
| Chillistick |
I still point out the obvious, we did not start this thread, you guys "the badwebbers" started it we simply came here to stand up for ourselves. You dont want us to come here then dont bring up our parts, dont talk about them. We did not bring them up you guys did remember that..... one more time, you guys brought this up, you guys put it on your site. I reserve the right to defend myself, my products and my friends and if you guys dont like that then its simple. dont bring up anymore threads about my parts. now has it sunken into your heads this time. |
