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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL start leaning more to the left. The article in the Battle2Win has all the settings you will need for your weight. I'll even help you set it up.
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Darthane
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought the fuel pump on the Firebolt was on the right? The air intake takes up most of the frame room on the left.

As for the suspension, I've read that article in Battle2win, I was just wondering what other people used on their 'bolts for what styles of riding and rider weights. As for the help, I'd appreciate it, Spidey. I probably will tweak with it over the next week and try to get out to some decent roads on the 7th-8th.

Bryan
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Chainsaw
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Darthane:

From my post elsewhere "...Reserve kicks on consistently with 1.1 gallons left (supposed to kick on at .7 gallons). I've gotten up to 63 mpg highway (65mph), in town I average 54 mpg (30-50mph), worst has been 39 mpg (110 mph for about 127 miles). "

Seeing 164 miles on the tripometer before the low fuel light comes on was great! I have a calculator velcroed to the black box on the left of the fairing, so I can figure out how much farther I can go when that light clicks on. I have probably gone only 25-35 miles on reserve before I filled up (3.4 gallons!). For peace on mind, on long trips I carry a fuel bottle that gives me another 14-20 miles.

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=483&parent_category_rn=5760743

Ten bucks, hasn't leaked a drop yet. Have a safe trip!
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Chainsaw
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oops! make mine the 33 fl. oz! Size of a tall bottle of water.
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Two_Buells
Posted on Saturday, August 31, 2002 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

try XB9R suspension settings here

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/14412.html?1028589809#POST112975
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Court
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ADMIN: Let's get that chart in the heading of this 2003 XB9R topic. I tried to go after it and my lame 'puter kept locking up.

Court
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Riglar
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone found aftermarket clutch & brake levers for the 'bolt? I'm looking for a set in black, that has a reduced "grab". The stock ones are much too far out (for the clutch anyway, since you can adjust the brake), and making it black is a priority of mine.

I saw one company that had aluminum ones, but $95 per lever is a bit outragoues considering I got a set for my friend for $52, and these were genuine harley ones..

Thanks in advance,

Richie
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Riglar,

Beware that if you put a lever on that starts closer to the bar, then there won't be enough travel to properly disengage the clutch. This will make shifting and finding neutral a pain, and will make the bike clunk hard and jump when put in gear.

Unfortunately the clutch in the XB has a huge torque load, and therefore requires a lot of spring pressure. This means a lot of travel is necessary in the clutch lever to allow for a reasonable clutch effort.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, September 01, 2002 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's an interesting tidbit on the XB's

http://www.thixomat.com/wi01pg09.htm
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Two_Buells
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I finally found a set a XB9R saddle bags
Now is my bike a XB9T ??????
XB9T
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Rick_A
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Superbike had a comparo between the 9S, SV650, and 900S. The XB came out the winner (of course). It's nice to see a mag put out a comparison between "real world" rivals.

Roadracing World also had a very informative article about the Hal's Pro Thunder bike. It was easily the most in depth of all the material I've read on the XB9R Pro Thunder bikes.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Two_Buells,

Your bike looks good with those bags. I think I'm gonna order a set for mine...do they mount up cleanly and do they seem well built?
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Two_Buells
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It only takes about 5 min to mount the bags. there is a bracket the mounts to the two screws under the tail section. that bracket holds the bags real nice. there are straps that go under the seat.
XB9T bags
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Bykergeek
Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sporttwin.com ROCKS! (Dallas Buell)
I ordered the Firebolt Touring Pillion saddle last week, got it today. Not only did they have it in stock, it shipped same day. THANKS!
Looks good and swaps w/ the original cowl/seat combo in seconds and matches the custom seat I originally got for my fat a$$ to sit on. If you do any 2up riding, Check It Out.
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Rd350
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am getting a flat spot in the RPM range between 2000RPM and 3000RPM. Just loads up and then clears out about 3000RPM. I was wondering if anyone else has this problem?
I am running the bike around 4200 to 5500 feet above sea level most of the time. So I was wondering if this might be effecting the bike.

Annoymous from the factory can you give me the heads up on this? What can I do to fix this problem.
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Bykergeek
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I get the same thing under low engine load (throttle almost closed). Several others have noted the same behavior. I don't think I noticed it before it hit 1000 miles.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It sounds like there may be a good reason for the ECM/TPS reset after 1000 miles. Suggest you keep the revs up though, 2K rpm is seriously lugging the engine, isn't it?
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Bykergeek
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2K rpm is close to lugging but 2500 rpm in 5th = 55mph; the break-in speed/rpm limit quoted in the owner's manual :(
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RD350,

LOL...dunno if it's a problem or not but there's a real simple fix - keep the RPMs above 3000! Makes for much better twist-n-gos, too.

:-)

Bryan
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hate to do it, but the 2,500/3,000 rpm break in limits specified by the factory have always bugged me, and I just have to challenge them. I mean on one side they caution strongly against lugging the engine, then on the other say to stay below 2,500 rpm for the 1st 50 miles? In my experience, those two requirements are conflicting.

I could see 3,000 rpm, but sheesh, the XB9's stroke is reduced thus hurting low rev performance, the rev limit increased, and still we have the same 2500 rpm first 50 mile break-in limit? It just doesn't seem right to me.

Does anyone REALLY actually know why the break-in, even the 500 mile requirements, are so conservative? Does anyone really know if it is ring seating or bearing and gear teeth wear-in (engine and tranny) that is governing the conservative break-in requirements?

Of course then we have the "Hans" method. :)
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Two_Buells
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I rode all my bikes home from the dealer and for the first fifty miles took it easy. after that I was banging the rev limiter between shifts. All five of my past Buells and six Harleys ran fine.

Break it in like your gonna ride it. JMOH....
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Raymaines
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If they had as many engineers as they do lawers….
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sorry it took so long to get back...I work all the friggin time and as ya know it don't involve any time near a puter....anyway...the break in is 500 because of.....drum roll please ...can you say warranty lawyers....nuff said....blake email me about the dyno charts...I am damn near computer stupid and I don't own a scanner....to answer a few of yer questions....4th gear roll onwas the gear...[lus it actually had more than a 2 second speed increase around 5k or so...our dyno reads low...maybe thats why don gets riled up...it read 76 hp compared to stock 69 and i beleive 66 torque compared to 56 stock...yes these are low but as I said we need to recalibrate the lil dyno...maybe hen we move it here in a few months to our brand new big fancy place we will do that...
seesya the woman is yellin for me...and the dog is biting me
bubba
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Xgecko
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


Quote:

Raymaines: If they had as many engineers as they do lawers….




Thats the truth for the nation...not to say that there aren't reasons for lawyers but last I heard the ratio was 7-1 (that was some years ago) reversing that trend would solve a lot of our nations' problems. We would be creating something again instead of paper (every lawyer creates at least a ton of paper-waste a year)
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Rempss
Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is this approach to break-in here

It suggests not to follow the factory procedure.

I don't know, food for thought / conversation?

Jeff
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Rd350
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rempss,

I have always used the quick breakin idea for years on a new engine. I have to say that it has worked for me always with great results. I also put in the pistons dry with no oil. This I have found gives a better seal contact to the cylinder walls. (I know someone is going to disagree with me but it works.)
I have a friend that works on race engines for Porsche and this is what they do also.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With regards to rings/cylinder walls I tend to agree with the mototune guy. But when it comes to bearings and tranny gears, a conservative wearing-in makes a lot of sense.
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Xgecko
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that website popped up on another BBS I frequent recently and lead to a great deal of discussion. however not even the Squidliest of Squids would consider doing that to their motor.
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Rempss
Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You, know I have read that page several time. He does shy away from the bering questions?

Glad I didn't fully follow his advice, though I had 2000+ miles when I went Nallin.

Jeff
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Harleybritt
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

side stand replacment,just got my stand put on yesterday.its killer it would take a hell of alot to push this bike over now..it is about an inch longer and angles further foward.it also has the spring on the out side.im really pleased.got more confidence now on leaveing it on a slope running.
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