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Jcbikes
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 03:35 pm: |
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Is the K&N filter ($65)an improvement performance wise over the stock filter ($25)other than the reusable part of it. This is on a stock 2004 xb12s.} |
Perry
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 03:46 pm: |
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I have an '05 XB12Scg, and yanking the snorkel, installing the K&N and drilling some holes in the inner airbox made a very noticeable difference. This was on a completely stock bike, no other mods. |
Scitz
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 03:50 pm: |
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It's supposed to have increased air flow and collect more dust. I've used K&N on other bikes and cars and feel it was worth the investment. A Badweb member posted not to long ago That Uni Filter is making a reusable filter for the XB. The price hasn't been mentioned yet but it may be cheaper the the K&N. I performed other upgrades at the same time I switched to the K&N filter so I can't say how much improvement it makes in how the bike responds. On the Buell I feel it's worth the investment so you can just clean and reuse it instead of having to wait on a dealer to order the stock filter. |
Gowindward
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 03:57 pm: |
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I just purchased a K&N at the local Advanced Auto Parts. It was $41 plus $5 for shipping since it was a special order item for them. The store has a little demo unit (supplied by K&N) that has a ping pong ball in a vertical tube about 18" long with two small fans blowing air through an air filter into the tube. With a K&N filter in place the ball floats at the top of the tube with the fans on. Swap the K&N filter with what looks like a typical paper filter and the ball just floats at the bottom of the tube while the fans are on. That sold me! (Message edited by gowindward on September 27, 2005) |
Jcbikes
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 03:59 pm: |
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Perry, thats the same mod's I have been looking to do. Where did it make the difference. Top end, bottom end, throttle response....was it considerably louder ? |
M1combat
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 04:17 pm: |
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K&N's are typically worth the money IME. |
Jerseyguy
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 07:26 pm: |
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I think I paid $60 online for the K&N. I put them in all of my vehicles. Honestly I don't know how much improvement they offer. Here's a pic of the stock vs K&N vs Buell Race. I went with the K&N.
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M1combat
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 07:41 pm: |
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Interesting... I bought the "Buell race" filter in December of '03 for an '04 XB12R. I got the center one in your pic. It even came in a K&N box (and bag as you see there). I got it from a Buell dealer... I didn't even realize the one on the right existed. |
Bikertrash05
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 08:38 pm: |
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Maybe someone else knows for sure, but I don't think HD sells K&N anymore. The Screamin Eagle kits all now have those blue and white filters, too. |
Tq_freak
| Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 11:20 pm: |
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M1- Buell and harley have recently switched to using a different comp instead of K&N for there race filters, dont know why they did it but they did |
Aldaytona
| Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 07:56 am: |
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To me the biggest improvement with the K&N is you buy 1 filter and that's it. I still have K&N filters in my 1983 Harley-Davidson FXRS and 1984 BMW R65LS that were installed within about a week after the bikes were new. I can tell you for sure they last over 20 years (they also look almost new). It's the 1st add on accessory I install on any bike I buy. |
Davefla
| Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 11:00 am: |
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I like my K&N simply because it seems to let so much more intake noise reach my ears. Can't say I've seen a real big change in fuel economy or power, but it sure sounds sweet once the throttle and exhaust valve have opened, and it's still quieter than swapping the muffler. Meanwhile, I added a K&N and cruise control to my 1993 GMC pickup two years ago. I regularly get 18-19mpg (once, I even saw 20) on the highway, instead of the rated (and previously experienced) 15-16mpg. I think it's paid for itself in that case. |
Buelluk
| Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 12:12 pm: |
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I have just retrofitted the original filter and snorkel to my XB9S prior to trading it in on a Uly. The difference is very noticeable, it's definitely worth making the change to the K&N and desnorkeling your 12. |
Nsbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 08:44 pm: |
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Does anyone know who the new manufacturer of Buell race filters is? Are they as good as a K&N? My dealer says they're washable and have the oil addative and everything. |
Jerseyguy
| Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 08:04 am: |
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Ns - I was told the same thing by my dealer when I returned the Buell "race' filter. When I asked how to clean & re-oil it, he suggested the K&N products. It may be just as good, I really don't know. It looks very similar in design. I stuck with the real K&N. |
Beachbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 07:53 pm: |
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Hey, does anyone have a part number for the K&N filter, for a 04 XB12R? |
Gowindward
| Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 08:53 pm: |
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BU-9003 is the K&N p/n |
Emscityx
| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 07:35 am: |
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is that the same part # for a 9S ? |
Gowindward
| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 09:34 am: |
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Yes K&N Applications for BU-9003 Product Information and Specifications for BU-9003 2005 BUELL FIREBOLT XB12R 1200 - All 2005 BUELL FIREBOLT XB9R 900 - All 2005 BUELL LIGHTNING CITYX XB9SX 900 - All 2005 BUELL LIGHTNING XB12S 1200 - All 2005 BUELL LIGHTNING XB12SCG 1200 - All 2004 BUELL FIREBOLT XB12R 1200 - All 2004 BUELL FIREBOLT XB9R 900 - All 2004 BUELL LIGHTNING XB12S 1200 - All 2004 BUELL LIGHTNING XB9S 900 - All 2003 BUELL FIREBOLT XB9R 900 - All 2003 BUELL LIGHTNING XB9S 900 - All 2002 BUELL FIREBOLT XB9R 900 - All http://www.knfilters.com/search/applications.aspx?Prod=BU-9003 |
Perry
| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 04:46 pm: |
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jcbikes, I noticed mostly because it seemed much quicker revving while stopped, and better response and more power on a roll on while riding. I guess that translates to more mid and high end as well as throttle response. It wasn't a tremendous difference, just enough to be noticeable and clearly not imagination. I honestly didn't notice any difference in sound as some others did. I don't hear any sucking or any real intake noise. I didn't even think about teh noise until it was mentioned by others here, so it was not anything I noticed. But I drilled only about 10 one-inch holes in the inner box, so it isn't completely open. I drilled the holes on the opposite side as the intake, figuring that would balance out where the air can draw from. I figure it more than doubled the area of intake compared to stock, but probably still retains a lot of the noise damping. I live at around 5000 ft. elevation, which I believe makes a difference in how the intake system behaves and how changes to the intake affect performance. (Message edited by perry on September 29, 2005) |