| Author | Message | ||
     Citified |
I got the jardine in feb and a month ago the side labels burned off. I thought stupid cheap labels. Then the rivets popped loose in the front and packing started coming out so I took it apart to fix it. Well, all the packing in the center was burned out so I just removed it all. Sounds killer but it is still a problem. Does this happen a lot in the jardines? | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
ITs ment to be rebuilt, which means there is a mileage range for the packing life. | ||
| Buellerx |
I bought a Jardine last year and within 2 months the rivets popped loose. I called them and they sent me a new one. The rivets popped on that one also and the elbow cracked near the front mounting bracket. I currently do NOT have a Jardine on my bike. I am out $238 + shipping though. | ||
| Xbolt12 |
I ran my Ti Jardine out of packing and the rivets were still factory tight. I think that is only because the Ti material is less prone to damage than either aluminum or carbon fiber. It seems like the Jardines start blowning packing out almost right away. Kind of make me wonder about all the other cans and what they use for packing... | ||
| Frausty12r |
Brillo pads? (j/k) | ||
| Cmm213 |
Jardine must use just put some weak fiber packing in those things because this subject as come up a few times. When I used to repack my fmf silencers on my yz's I would always wrap the core tube as tight as I could get it, then twist some safety wire around the packing in three different spots down the length of the tube. Maybe it will last longer for you guys. | ||
| Diablobrian |
I wonder if packing it with staintune packing would work. They use a sort of stainless steel wool type material. I guess I'll have to try when it is time to re-pack mine. | ||
| Roc |
Stainless pot scrubbers work? | ||
| Diablobrian |
not a terrible idea, probably worth trying if you can get them in bulk cheap. should never have to re-pack again. probably won't be as quiet as the stock fiberglass packing though. I used to own a vfr and those guys rave about the staintune pipes. | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
Same here. When I removed for repacking, I stuffed as much as possible in there (took 2 bags). I also added twice as many rivets on the front to prevent that problem. | ||
| Race_pirate |
Pro's: The Jardine is light & easy to mount. Even makes the bike look lighter. Con's: Not really designed for a V twin like the XB, packing blows out, rivets break. The Fix: BIG STEEL RIVETS!!!! My can is ugly as all heck, but I made a baffle, eliminated the rubber mount, and it hasnt exploded since. | ||
| Typeone |
Scorpion pipes use stainless steel wrap inside too, i had one of their CF cans on my last bike for a bit. Nice sound. I can't remember the details but I've had this conversation before. There is a specific type of steel wool or packing you should use in exhaust. Regular 'brillo pads' or the like may catch fire or burn with the higher temps. I know you guys are probably kidding but there are all kinds of steelwool out there. Just make sure you purchase the correct type of wool to pack with. (Message edited by typeone on August 01, 2005) | ||
| Cmm213 |
That is a good Idea try experimenting with other material- I know this I kinda off subject but Greddy import exhaust canisters have cut away views of the gutts of its mufflers and they use stainless wool first around the core tube then use a cotton or fiberglass packing in the shape of cubes. | ||
| Typeone |
One other note, that Scorpion I had didn't require repacking due to the stainless wrap which leads me to believe the stainless stuff will last longer than the cheapo regular packing. Two Brothers have a cutaway pic on their site too looks like they use a few kinds in layers... http://www.twobros.com/Exhaust/ | ||
| Lightisright |
I started using Silent Sport muffler packing (when I had 2 stroke dirt bikes). It always lasted 2-3X as long as the cheap stuff before needing repacked. | ||
| Tq_freak |
What about the factory aftermarket hop up kit, that muffler seams pretty good. and you can get the comp and air cleaner with it for a somewhat decent price | ||
| Jerseyguy |
Citified - Why not send your stock can to Kevin and have it made into a Drummer while you sort out the Jardine. Then you could compare & pick the powerband you prefer. | ||
| Briz31 |
Roughly how many Km / Miles would you expect to get out of a Jardine Alloy Can ? Before you should look at re-packing... Mine is 6 months old now, no sign of the rivets heading south... I'm sure the packing inside is getting all "manky" and burnt out, as she's sounding a little more meaner now... You have to enjoy those cool silent nights, not a sound to be heard...... except for a BUELL XB twisting through the hills.... Love it... | ||
| Xb12_ohio |
Ok I also have the Jardine But it has ben said before you get what u pay for and because I'M not rich I am always on a budget and I'm sure that for a few of you guys the price was the deciding factor. But I went in another direction with the packing I used a material that withstands 20,000 degrees and is very simalar to 1 inch thick wool The material is used in furnaces that melt steel. It comes in 24"X 10' so it raps the center can very well. It is a denser material so the sound is real loud, I like. As for the rivits. The gasket material in my pipe that sat between the front cap and the main can , fell out and I think the lack of material must have given it room to rattel or somthing. maybe ....sounds good right? Anyway I used RTV copper up to 700* .I hope it holds. | ||
| Xbolt12 |
"The gasket material in my pipe that sat between the front cap and the main can , fell out " Do you mean the masking tape applied at the Jardine factory-lol! xbolt12 | ||
| Hattori_hanzo |
What Briz said...  | ||
| Xbolt12 |
Don't get me wrong, I still like the pipe.... | ||
| Dana P. |
I was just paging through MotorCyclist magazine and found this www.silentsport.com . I haven't checked it out yet but maybe this is a good alternative. | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
interesting... I emailed them for a price. | ||
| Briz31 |
WHEELSLEANING: COOL, PLEASE POST INFORMATION ... MANY THANKS... | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
$44.90 for 2 bags total, no shipping charge. Email silentsport@sbcglobal.net. He just sent me an invoice via Paypal. | ||
| Race_pirate |
Use Steel or Stainless Steel rivets when reassembling..... | ||
| Wheelsleaning |
All I could find was aluminum. So I doubled the # of them. | ||
| Race_pirate |
You will need to find steel rivets, ACE hardware carries them. Try it for now and I hope that you do not go thru what I did, luckily the race belly pan caught the parts. ALL of the aluminum rivets broke and the a can fell off of the front mount. If I didnt have the Belly Pan I could have easily been ejected off the bike. | ||
| Xb12_ohio |
I just talked to my boss and Next week I'm going to make a jaunt to the shop to pick up a couple of larg boxes of scraps of this high temp wool. If any one is interested in trying it e-mail me your shipping address and I'll send u out enough to wrap your can for free. I am limited to the amount I can get so please be understanding if not everyone gets to try it. I'll pay for the shiping send me a check or money order for the shiping alone after u receive the material. (I am not selling anything,just pay shiping) I figure that I get it free u get it free. joedoc152@aol.com | ||
| Dana P. |
Keep us posted on how the stuff holds up?? | ||
| Xb12_ohio |
I have 2,000 miles on it now and itlooks good from what I can see so far. I havnt opened up the can but did take a look down the inside with a flahlight. The key to this material is not getting it wet. Having a good seal around the front of the can is important! |
