| Author | Message | ||
     Tommy_2stroke |
OK, so I removed this hideous great wart from the side of my pretty little California XB. What do I do with the hoses? 1) Join 'em with a short tube 2) Plug 'em both 3) Let 'em dangle open Thanks in advance.  (Message edited by tommy_2stroke on June 26, 2005) | ||
| Kowpow225 |
I'd couple them together in a less conspicuous area of the bike. Perhaps up behind the frame where they begin? Tsk. Tsk. You should try hugging a tree.  (This coming from a guy who has a 'race cat' on his car!) | ||
| Unibear12r |
No No No One of them is the vent/overflow from your fuel tank and I think needs to be lengthened and run back and down behind the motor ala 49 state bikes. Do not plug! The other runs to the intake at the throttle body and should be plugged! Proly should not ride the bike til you do. You might be able to plug it at the T.B. with a cap. You just have to figure which is which. Sorry mines an R model which have the cannister hidden in the body. They don't cost you any performance so I'm keeping mine. If I had a S model it'd be the first thing to go tho. Ugly. | ||
| Metalstorm |
When you figure it out please let us know. I've been thinking about removing mine. | ||
| Tommy_2stroke |
Ah ha. Leaving the hose to the throttle body open will surely result in a vacuum leak -- a very bad thing. Must be plugged. The fittings on the cannister are clearly labeled "carb" and "tank". But of course Tommy got all excited and just yanked the two identical hoses off the can before noticing this fact. Now he doesn't know which is which! DOH! | ||
| 2k4xb12 |
When I eliminated mine, I left the rubber hose connected to the tank vent, then I removed both hard plastic lines. One of the lines just happened to have the right bends and follow the correct path along the frame and down the inside of the swingarm. There's even a tapped hole there and I was able to secure it with a small p-clamp inside the swingarm. If I remember correctly, I had to cut the plastic line -- it has two bends in it, but you need to cut it just before the second bend. Worked out perfect and looks factory. For the vacuum port on the side of the throttle body, I didn't have a cap, so I took a short (about 1"  section of vacuum line and squeezed RTV into one end of it, filling it half way. When that cured, it became a cap. No problems to date. Steve. | ||
| Krassh |
Technically you could join them together as the purpose of the charcoal canister system is to store gas vapor in the canister until the bike is run. Joining them together would still accomplish part of what the system was designed for but only when the bike is running. Of course capping the intake line and venting the tank line will just vent fuel vapor to the atmosphere like the 49 state models. | ||
| Tommy_2stroke |
OK, I got it; obvious once the airbox cover is removed. Routed the vent line through the frame, down and out. Then plugged the hose to the throttle body tightly with a bit of wooden dowel. (Just a quick fix until I can get down in there to cap it off at the source.) Nothing like jamming a bit of wooden dowel into your state-of-the-art motorbike. Heh. | ||
| Briz31 |
What the heck is that !!! The missing Weapons of Mass destruction ? Don't have anything like that on my bike.. | ||
| Bbstacker |
I say hook 'em together. What's the worst that can happen?  | ||
| Tommy_2stroke |
Briz, that huge black ugly soup can is the evaporative emissions canister that is mandatory on all California bikes. It is filled with charcoal and captures the 50 milligrams of fuel vapor that would otherwise be vented to the atmosphere from my bike every day, thereby saving the lives of countless snail darters and innocent tiny blue butterflies. I've removed it. This is the LEAST of my crimes against the environment, believe me. Why just last week I deliberately tossed an aluminum beer can into the regular trash bin, when I could have recycled it. Cheif Wiggum; "Cuff him, boys!" | ||
| Unibear12r |
I'm not good enough to fully explain but... If it was good the factory would plug the 49r bikes together instead of plug and separate. I don't think pulling that much vacuum on the fuel tank is a good thing. If you ever overfill the tank or get some heat expansion of your fuel your going to dump a LOT of excess fuel into the intake. That's not good. | ||
| Brucelee |
Seriously, I just cut both tubes and threw the can out. So, if I get this right, I need to plug the tube that goes to the intake? | ||
| 2k4xb12 |
Yes, otherwise, you'll have a vacuum leak. Also, if you overfill your fuel, it'll run out the vent hose at the top of the tank. If the line doesn't run down to the ground, you might end up with fuel on yout hot engine parts.  | ||
| Brucelee |
I just plugged the line that runs to the intake. However, I have been riding with this vacuum leak for say, 12 months. Have I hurt the engine or what? Aye Carumba! The vent line is simply open and it will allow vapor to escape in the atmosphere. Don't tell Greenpeace on me! | ||
| Briz31 |
Well bugger me... how about that.. I'm glad we don't have any of these crazy things here... Next they will have little catch masks covering the exhaust on every vehicle... or worse.. A tiny canister attached to your belt to collect all the "Gaseous" bowel movements expelling from your body... No offence to all the Californian’s out there, but you got some strange omission laws. | ||
| 2k4xb12 |
Yeah, but ironically, they're not smogging diesels yet...  | ||
| Bbstacker |
It took me a while to find a Buell in California for the right price. I couldn't import one from out of state unless it had over 7500 miles on the odometer. I'm not sure how that emission law benefits anyone except for people who sell California bikes to people in California. |
