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Wildduke
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys, I would like to know if there was a way to get more top speed out of a XB12-R?
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Ivershay
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

buy a 'busa
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Dustyjacket
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speed is merely a matter of money....how fast can you afford?
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's cheaper with a Busa.
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Dago
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or you could buy mine. It's definitely faster than a busa.
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Josh_
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buying a busa is the cheapest way to go fast, but not with an XB.

Fast, Cheap, Quality

pick 2. If you picked Fast and Quality, check with Nallinracing.com
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Fullpower
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you have a rev limit of 6800 rpm, which the stock bike will attain in top gear. how fast do you want it to go? it is possible that you need another motorcycle to satisfy your speed problem, than you may be better able to enjoy your Buell for what it is.
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dago, your Buell is awesome. I'm flying to TX to ride it.
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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speed is only a matter of how deep your pocket book is.
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Elyaswolffxb9s
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if top speed is your goal (and not acceleration) than simply fit a smaller rear sprocket.
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Dago
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scott, any Bueller who has had his pic taken with Ozzy can not only ride the fastest Buell in existence, he can even crash at my house. Come on down!

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Bristolxb
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speed is a matter of perspective, if you can get 85% of your bikes TRUE potential out of it and have fun your doing well. So if a guy on a Cossack Ural with a chair is pushing it at 70 he's doing well, if you are shoving yours through corners flat out then
A Enjoy the ride
B Spend loads doing mods
C Buy a BIG in line 4

Done the big in line 4 thing its fun with LOADS of power but not that usable.Rather have the Buell and a grin!
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Riderx09
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was curious about gearing up because i plan on takeing some big trips which may require lots of highway riding and i would like to get the Rpms down so im not a 4 grand at 70mphs and i can hear myself think....how much power loss would accurr?? gotta love my dads baker 6-speed overdrive cruises the highway at 2,000....
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Wildduke
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry guys, I guess I should elaborate a little bit. I currently own Ducati Monster 900 however when I'm riding with the boys, I am always the one holding the group back. I am currently living and working in the Middle East and the roads here are very fast. For an example the slowest speed limit in town is 100kph, however the radar detectors wont go off till 120kph.

So, i've been looking at purchasing another bike. I been on a test riding frenzy, testing things from r1's,zx10r's, z1000's, TDM900's to Cagiva raptors, all are superb bikes but none has caught my fancy like the Buell. I've taken it for a test ride 3 times and it gets better everytime. Just to clarify its not just the feel, its the quality and finish of the materials used, the sound, the riding position. I know I dont need 150+ bph, and I dont want to be screaming around town at 14,000rpm, but I would like to be able to ride at 180kph to 200kph without screaming the guts out of the engine.

I've done a little research and I cant seem to find a 6 speed transmission, nor any gearing mods that allow for more speed. I know that in countries where speed is highly regulated the buell is the perfect choice, however in my case I would like a little more speed.
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 03:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Longer primary chain and a larger front primary sprocket?
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Brucelee
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If riding at 130Plus on a motorcycle is not fast enough for you, hmmm,

perhaps you ought to look at that?
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan sells a primary kit to attain a higher top speed, I am buying the extra torque kit, lower top speed but I will be able to pull stumps out of the ground.
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Fullpower
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the xb12 will happily spend all day running over a hundred MPH. doesnt bother it a bit. you WILL be stopping for fuel every 75 minutes or so.
you say you are "holding up the group" on your 900 ducati?
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Rocketman
Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In speed camera crazy Britain the authorities are attempting to make speeding an unacceptable form of behaviour. Trouble is it's working.

Despite millions of motorists against the use of cameras and speed traps, the issue seems that these same motorists are scared to break the speed limit by even as little as 3 mph in fear of being caught by hidden traps. This creates a social problem.

Along comes a driver who might know the road well, even where the speed traps are usually hidden, and in a responsible manner and when safe to do so this driver proceeds to pass the slower vehicle(s) and carry on about their merry way.

Once upon a time it was deemed safe and acceptable to drive in this manner but over the last 5 years or so frustrated motorists have sat in long processional slow moving weaves of vehicles sticking rigorously to posted speed limits they've become angry at those who dare to speed and overtake. For those that do speed and overtake - they need be prepared to face a barrage of flashing headlights in their rear view mirror or worse still shaking fists and threats of bodily harm at the next stop sign!!!

Me, I'm all for allowing bikes an unlimited top speed on the open road. We do it anyway so why get penalized for doing so? Better the law trades off by us riding extra careful through built up areas in exchange for being left alone on the open road.

Anyone wants to ride at 150mph with their hair on fire great luck to ya. I'll be with you all the way - on my 916

Rocket
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Wildduke
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cheers guys, well,

FULL POWER - the M900 can do up to 220kph, but I am so petrified that something will break everytime I ride that I dont feel confident running the engine at high rev's for too long, where as the guys I ride with are totally confident winding their engines right up.

NEW12R - I thought that trojan kit was only for the xb9's, do they make one for the 12's now??

ROCKETMAN - Very well said!!
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Buelluk
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,

Yeah that's a great idea ( please note tone of sarcasm applies to this post ) , the authorities will probably have a 90-100% kill rate with all the bikers going flat out on British roads outside of town.

The cagers won't care until they notice their community charge doubling because of all the extra police and ambulances needed to scrape up the remains.

That should cut the motorcycling population to nil in a couple of years and they will achieve what they are trying to do with GATSO in probably half the time.
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Hanses25
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dago

I would have to say I think I have a friend with the fastest XB in the lower 48 and it even looks stock. For all who wonder what it takes to go really, really fast on your XB here is a list of stuff you'll need.

XB9R- 88" K&N FILTER,BORED VELOCITY STACK,BORED THROTTLE BODY, NRHS 3 13/16 HURRICANE PISTONS, AXTELL CYLINDERS, GAPLESS RINGS, TOOL STEEL WRISTPINS, XB12 FLYWHEEL ASSEMBLY, NRHS STAGE 3 HEADS (1.9" ex 1.615" in, hurricane springs, stainless steel valves, bronze manganese valve guides) CRANE ROLLER ROCKERS, HYDRO-SOLID LIFTERS, ADJUSTABLE PUSHRODS, REDSHIFT .585 CAMS, XB12 PRIMARY SPROCKETS AND CHAIN, BOSCH INJECTORS, POWER COMMANDER III, FORCE EXHAUST, HEATED O2 SENSOR FREESPIRITS HIGH-SPEED FINAL DRIVE PULLEYS......117RWHP/109TQ...MORE TO COME
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Dago
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's pretty impressive, but mine's still faster.

; )
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Jeremyh
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh god here W(EGO)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is this going to be another round of mine's bigger?
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Hanses25
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

B/UK with respect you're talking out of your posterior maybe {GRIN}

Every time a biker takes to the open road on a sports type bike they will inevitably break the speed limit. That's a guarantee. There are many police officers that won't book you for speeding providing you were not being ridiculously fast, in an unsuitable place, of a bad attitude or riding like an idiot whilst breaking the speed limit. Many factors will or won't "get you out of jail free".

Fact is speed does not kill. The incorrect use of speed can kill. So can going slow. Those that die in motorcycle accidents many might have had an excess speed factor involved but that's not going to slow anyone down who was out riding in the glorious sunshine yesterday.

Thousands of bikes were out on the UK roads this past Bank Holiday weekend and whilst I'm certain there will have been a motorcycle fatality or three somewhere in the UK those fatalities if they did \ have occur \ ed will represent a minute percentage of those who made it home safely.

It's also a fact the majority of motorcycle fatalities happen in built-up areas and involve other (four wheeled or more) vehicles - and yes in some cases excess speed too.

If the law was made to accommodate bikers having an unlimited speed limit on the open road it wouldn't make biking any more dangerous. That's because the same biker isn't suddenly going to start riding any faster - they're already going that fast anyway, to their own chosen feel comfortable limit. Sure I accept there'll be a novelty period where the throttle 'll be to the stop but it won't last.

What could happen though is biking can become safer because of unlimited speed limits on the open road. That's the trade off I was referring to. The reward bikers pay back is extra careful riding within the posted limits inside built-up areas. This is the danger zone for bikers anyway so the benefit of extra careful riding is in the bikers favour. Not only that though, it is to every other road users benefit if bikers pose less of a target for them to run into or vise versa. That includes everyone and everything from trucks to pedestrians. Consider also bikers won't have to have their 'third' eye looking over their shoulder distracting them from concentrating on the more important aspects of riding fast as they try to keep a look out for speed traps or police officers.

How do bikers endorse and enforce such riding? Simple. Bikers accept that they suffer severe consequences if caught breaking the speed limit in the areas they accept are a danger zone to all road users. Those would be the posted limits then. Within these limits extreme punishment would be a strong deterrent. That said it wouldn't take a deterrent of such magnitude if attitudes were changed because bikers were allowed an open speed limit. Bikers can show that they can ride fast and safe on the open road and safe and sensible around others. They prove so by trading their best behaviour where it counts for free speed on the open road. Do consider though bikers already have free speed on the open road as long as they don't get caught. In reality it would be bikers giving more towards road safety by their more responsible riding attitudes towards all road users with the trade off of safer riding in the areas frequented more by all.

You see my point? Incidentally open speed limits work in the Isle of Man all year round.

Rocket
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Spatten1
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dago's XB is definitely faster. He has the Buell race kit, not all that second rate aftermarket junk. High compression this, duration that, blah blah blah.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine's quickest... I yanked my snorkel...
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Tatsu
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mines the fastest it rides in the back of my pick-up. JK
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