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Mother_Big
Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that's my birthday, you see. so i expect to win
a contest or something. get one for free...
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Jim_M
Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's the "Slay the Dragon" contest happening on 4/27 at your local HD/Buell shop.

I know I'll be there.
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Greasebag
Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Today I my dealer told me the last he heard was "early March".
Personally, I'd rather go with the 4/27 date
and be pleastly surprised if it's any earlier.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Local news is not always the fastest source of info, in today's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: Buell Motorcycle Debuts New Bike.
--- begin quote ---
Associated Press
Last Updated: Feb. 21, 2002 at 3:39:32 a.m.
MILWAUKEE - Buell Motorcycle Co. is introducing a new sport bike with a frame that doubles as a fuel tank, an innovative design the company believes will let riders take fast curves easier.

Buell has shown the Firebolt XB9R at trade shows in recent months but will give the general public its first glimpse at Bike Week in Daytona Beach, Fla. The event, which starts March 1, is the nation's largest annual gathering of bikers.

``I've always had a lot of pent-up dreams and desires that I wanted to execute in the next design, and this was the chance to do it,'' said Erik Buell, the company's chairman and chief technical officer.
--- end quote ---

I'll let you read the rest. I'm not too sure about independent motorcycle analyst's Don Brown's judgements though:
"Harley appeals to baby boomers who want a traditional cruiser, while Buell attracts the boomers' kids who want a sport bike, said Don Brown, an independent motorcycle analyst from Irvine, Calif."

Oh well, don't matter, I ride what I like regardless of my age or demographic profile.
bye.
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Pilot
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think most people are missing the point with the front wheel braking system and thinking that it will brake harder etc and completly missing the gains achieved with a lighter wheel hence less unsprung weight, better handling etc.Just my observation.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep.
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Dave
Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2002 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Back from the IMS ...
The Firebolt is awesome!

Firebolt
X - XL line
B - Buell
9 - 900 cc
R - Road -- -- -- Is "D" for Dual Purpose next?

Firebolt

DAve
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Kevyn
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, the 'Bolt was indeed nice...but the Duc' S4T was a bit larger and more ergonimically friendly for my frame size and has enough ponies for a serious march should the opportunity present itself...not that I have the dough for the Duc, I'm just stallin' to see what comes next from our beloved marquee...just can't imagine being dressed out and taking any prolonged excursions with no place to move to like the rear pegs on the tubers...
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Ocbueller
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I too have been eyeballing the ST4 particularly the ST4S. But I will probably chill for awhile and see what Buell has up its sleeve. With the cost of the Ducati I would probably wait for a low mileage used one.
SteveH.
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In my opinion, any bike that needs valve attention every 6000 miles should not be considered a serious Sport Tourer!

Now that Aprilia Futura, on the other hand, is close to perfect. I think the valves don't need attention until 12,000 miles and they are simpler shim under bucket arrangement.

Imagine something like a Futura, same size, with a belt drive, made in the USA, with a Revolution engine in it.....
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Ocbueller
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well Jose,
You've got a good point there. But with multiple bikes in the garage it would take me two years to put 6000mi. on a bike. I've tried to like the Futura, but the looks just a little too stealth fighter for me. I may just wait for you to buy one so's I can try it on for size.
SteveH
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well yes, if that is the case the Ducati's valve adjustments don't become a big issue. Don't get me wrong I love Ducatis, but I could never own one if it was the ONLY bike I could have. I put 35k on my Sporty since 98 and 23k on my Buell since 99 so I couldn't afford all those valve adjustments.

BTW, the valve adjustment for the Futura is 9400 miles, not 12,000 miles like I mentioned earlier.

The Revolution's valve adjustment interval is 10,000 miles, I think.

I'm waiting on what HD/Buell come up with in the next year or two, If they don't come up with what I like, the Aprilia Futura is the one!

An interesting thing that Motorcycle Consumer News found about the Futura is that it was nearly invisible to Police Radar! Stealth indeed!
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Thunder
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve , consider the Falco then same engine as the Futura but more naked. I am looking forward to see what buell will announce next, but hope to test a ride either the Falco or Futura before then.
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Moderator
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

topic.. ahem.. topic.. glurgglefart :)
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Thunder
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK back to the topic XB9R.... Great looking bike. The IMS @ St Louis last weekend, Buell had a nice booth. The bike feels great while posing for camera shots. Can't wait to test ride one, but unforunately can't make it to Daytona next week. Definately looking forward to Buells next product launch.
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Peter
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A Dutch dealer has put the prices for the Firebolt here on their website.
€13,550 + €290 setup = $11,747.85 + $251.43 setup, at todays cross rates.
PPiA
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Stevep
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A price list in Belgium has the Firebolt at €11950. Delivery in March.

SteveP
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Jim_Witt
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Peter wrote:

A Dutch dealer has put the prices for the Firebolt here on their website. €13,550 + €290 setup = $11,747.85 + $251.43 setup, at todays cross rates.


Hey Pete,

So what "could" you get for $12,000 motorcycle wise over there.

Just curious,
-JW:>)
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Peter
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim,
The biggest opposition for me, would be the R1150GS. It comes in at less than $12,000 and would be my first choice instead of the Firebolt.
PPiA
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 03:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Peter: ONLY $12,000! List price over here on a new '02 GS is $14,500. Maybe we can work a trade. I WILL own a GS someday.
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Jima4media
Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 02:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Higbee to Race New Buell XB Firebolt in AMA Pro Thunder


Shawn Higbee has signed a one year deal to ride for Hal's Buell. Shawn will compete on the new Buell XB Firebolt in the 2002 AMA Pro Thunder Series. Higbee recently attended the Indianapolis Motorcycle Trade Show to sign autographs and renew his contract with long time personal sponsor Millenium Technologies. Prior to arriving in Daytona Beach, FL for the 2002 kickoff of the AMA Pro Thunder championship, Shawn spent a few days in Valencia, Spain on business.

When asked about the up and coming 2002 season Higbee stated, "This season is
going to be remarkable. In pre season testing, the new Buell XB Firebolt has
shown awesome potential. The all-new Firebolt engine has fuel injection which
delivers smooth and useable power, and the chassis has breakthrough geometry.

I'm really looking forward to racing the Firebolt in Daytona."

From Hal's Buell
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Srl
Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just took a chilly ride on the Firebolt, VERY COOL BIKE. I was hooked before we ever made it out to the street. Just riding from the demo area to the exit gate was enough to know that it just felt right. Minor concern was exhaust blows right on your ankle when left foot is on the ground, which was nice today (48f) but would not be nice when it's 88f. Going back for more in the morning 8^]

SRL
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Oldman
Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how were the lines for the test rides srl, wanna try and do that and battletrax the same day.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MCN Rides the XB9R


Quote:

First test: Buell Firebolt


5 Mar 2002
By Jon Urry at Valencia, Spain






We’ve been riding Buell’s radical new Firebolt. It’s an R1-light, quick-steering beam-framed thriller aimed at European sports bike nuts, but does it hit its target?

For our full report, make sure you get hold of a copy of MCN, out on Wednesday, March 6, 2002.

But in the meantime, here’s our all-important first impression, after testing the bike for the first time, on the challenging race track at Valencia, Spain.

(i) The Buell handles well and inspires confidence. It is beautifully balanced, feels composed and encourages you to push hard.

(ii) The motor produces enough grunt to be fun, but not enough to threaten breaking traction through the sticky Dunlop D207 tyres.

(iii) The bike turns sharply, but never gets unstable, the brakes are strong, but not over the top and the bike seems to weigh next to nothing.

(iv) Even at serious lean angles, the Buell is so settled you actually start to wonder if you could get your elbow down as well as your knee.

(v) The XB9R is tiny for a 1000cc bike, but few will find cramped.

(vi) It always drops predictably into corners and feels totally planted.

(vii)In typical Buell fashion, the clutch is quite stiff.

(viii) The radical rim-mounted discs work well. The single six-piston caliper is lacking slightly in initial feel, but there’s loads of power when you need it.


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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"... rim-mounted disks... "? Oops. Otherwise, I'm stoked. Sounds like Buell is dead on target with the XB9R. Imagine the reception an XB12R will get. Same weight, same handling, 20% more grunt!

Some pics from MCN's ride at Valencia...

MCN Rides the XB9R at Valencia MCN Rides the XB9R at Valencia
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SRL: Friendly smartass suggestion...

Try moving your left foot forward a few inches.
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Found this on the Wausau Buell site (that I found via Bam's profile, just being nosey :))
=== begin quote ===
Life isn't a racetrack. Reality isn't a lap time. You don't push 160mph on the typical, late-night burrito run. Buell motor cycles are designed, engineered and manufactured for the real world. But reality doesn't have to be boring. Every Buell motorcycle bears the truths of streetfighting performance: raw, throaty power. Gobs of torque. Flickable handling. And exceptional control.
=== end quote ===

Seems to still fit. Works for me.

ps, is the color on the S2 under their used section the "black saphire pearl" paint????? Uh, never mind, I'll go post this appropriately before the Admin throws an Armadillo at me.
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Oldman,

I rode the Firebolt yesterday. Lines weren't bad. I waited maybe 30 minutes. It was cold yesterday, so there will probably be more people in line late this week when weather's better.

It's an awesome bike. Didn't get to approach it's limits by any means, the course doesn't have enough curves & of course speed limits get in the way. But I could tell that it is a remarkable bike. It would be the bike that I would buy if I did not already own my M2. I didn't go there thinking that, I was curious to see it in person & see how it feels. But it was such a fun ride that it sold itself on me. The front brake is incredible, I chattered the front tire at 60mph with just one finger. It has a fairly comfortable riding position, comfortable enough that I could ride all day. I didn't notice the exhaust on my leg at a standstill like other's have complained about. But, I've got a 36 inch inseam & my feet are well away from the bike at a stop. The engine feels very revy. They must have done an excellent job with the valve train. It feels faster than I would have thought given the amount of hp it should produce at the rear wheel. Everything seems much more finished than previous Buells & very durable. I was impressed with the exhaust mount system, it shouldn't give any problems. This is the first Buell that I would take stock & be happy not changing anything. Although, a Banke shifter & rerouting the breather hoses to a catch can could be good!
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S320002
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

(iv) Even at serious lean angles, the Buell is so settled you actually start to wonder if you
could get your elbow down as well as your knee.

Imagine a 'Busa rider in the tight twisties. He leans it hard into a corner and there in his mirror are those wicked eyes. The left one is winking "I'm coming through!". Right about then Mr. 'Busa starts praying for a nice long staight stretch and thinking "I got all these extra ponies but what can I do?"
Just a vision that came to mind.

Greg ;-)
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Oldman
Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the insight m2,makes me want to take the rest of the week off just to go over and play on it everyday. not that i don't have fun on my m2.
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