| Author | Message | ||
     Anonymous |
The next time you are going out to a bar to watch a baseball game, and you can't quite decide between your West Coast Choppers T-Shirt and your OCC T-Shirt, make sure if you pick the Hells Angels T-Shirt that the bar you are going to doesn't "belong" to the Pagans.... http://www.nj.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news-9/111388631061220.xml http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/features/wabc_041805_hellsangelbrawl_slides/wabc_041 805_hell1.html And not only was the guy not a Hell's Angel, he didn't even own a motorcycle. The T-Shirt was a gift from a friend. Some gift! (Message edited by blake on April 24, 2005) | ||
| Slaughter |
Heard about that and thought it was a joke... I remember kids putting those "KICK ME" signs on other kids chairs in elementary school with a loop of tape so they'd stick to their butts? I guess this is what those jokers do when they grow up. | ||
| Norrisperformance |
It was just a support t-shirt. I can't believe that happened. That was the big subject last night, @ a party I went to. There were many different MC’s @ the party. And there were no problems. That goes to prove, never wear your colors when your by yourself. And always no who’s territory you in. I’m glad things are not that bad in the south yet! (Message edited by norrisperformance on April 24, 2005) | ||
| Gschuette |
That is ridiculous. People are getting increasingly more stupid. I can't believe someone would kill another person becuase of what t-shirt they are wearing. | ||
| Anonymous |
It wasn't about the T-shirt, the shirt identified him as a rival gang member. It was strictly business... (Message edited by blake on April 24, 2005) | ||
| Norrisperformance |
The thing that get's me is that It was just a support t-shirt, MC was nowhere on it. People wear them all the time. It looks like it's not just about territory anymore, it's war. | ||
| Slaughter |
Try wearing a red bandana or blue in the wrong side of LA sometime. Tribalism has been with us as long as human beings have been on the planet though it used to be for definable issues - food, water, territory, oil. Now - battling over colors as if that means something.} Aint just that - try ordering Merlot in a biker bar...... ..... ..... JUST KIDDING! Go figure. | ||
| Robxb |
some people just don't know what's going on with the whole color thing, same goes for the numbers on the local support shirts. I know a few people from both clubs and they all know how I feel about the whole thing and that i don't want to get involved in their politics. I live not too far from where it happened and I see both 81 and 16's in the area. my biggest fear is getting caught in the middle of their war at the local bar I hang out at. I don't feel that I should be leary about going in there, maybe just a "no colors" sign would be a good thing to have up there. (Message edited by robxb on April 25, 2005) | ||
| Loki |
as the two leather wearing road weary types strolled into the tavern. One could here a pin drop. As they set themselves down at the bar, all heads turned towards them. The silence continued. We ordered a couple beers. The keep strongly suggested we drink em fast and leave even faster. See, we were not properly dressed. We did not have belt buckles, the size of texas, or the required headwear. | ||
| Buells Rule! (Dyna in disguise) |
I don't feel that I should be leary about going in there, maybe just a "no colors" sign would be a good thing to have up there. We have a few bars that have instituted just such a rule in the area & they are deadly serious about it. Not even HOG patches are allowed to be worn inside, they dont care what "club" you belong to & treat everyone equally. It seems to work too. | ||
| U4euh |
A motorcyclist is a motorcyclists. Does it really have to boil down to a pi$$ing contest about where they choose to ride and hangout? Wish people would act responsibly sometimes and think about the future events that their actions might affect. | ||
| Got1nut |
gang members who belongs to an organization responsible for murder, prostitution, drugs, rape and many other illegal activities have NOTHING to do with motorcycles. If I saw one of these people broken down in the middle of nowhere, I would keep on riding by. The problem here in NJ is that NJ was always pagan territory. The Hells Angels now have moved in and as we all know both gangs have a kill on site thing going on. So this is only the beginning of whats to come. | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Got1nut I know of another state the same thing is getting ready to happen. Here in the Raleigh Durham area it is all Hells Angels territory and everybody nows it. If you want to have a MC here, it has to be approved by the power groups. Namely the Hells Angels. If you and some buddies decided to start you own club. And you started wearing colors that weren’t recognized, you could end up dead! | ||
| Jerseyguy |
I worked a chopper show in Ocean City, MD last fall and we posted "No Colors Allowed" signs and hired SWAT guys in full gear to enforce it. They did make some guys turn their vests inside out before letting them in. What a world...... I hope the Alpinestars logo on my jacket doesn't offend anyone..... | ||
| Outrider |
I'm all for the "No Colors" restrictions that Dyna mentioned. We have quite a few biker bars here in Milwaukee with the signs posted and apparently they are working. Personally, I dont' care to even wear an exposed manufacturer's logo on anything except my Levi's. First, I feel I should be compensated to be a walking billboard. Second, I refuse to be associated with any group that could result in any conflicts. I'll be damned if I am going to get into a fight unless it is absolutely unavoidable. Personally, I take the "Go ahead, hit me...I'll own your house" ploy. It usually diffuses the situation long enough to either get out or get ready. Incidentally, self-defense doesn't play well in these parts. Usually both parties are arrested for not being adults. Sort of a Zero Tolerance for bar room brawling, eh? | ||
| Glitch |
We have to deal with the outlaws here. Most everywhere here there are the "no colors" rules. With the Alibi closed I can't think of a bar you can get in wearing colors. | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Can't we all just get along! Most Motorcycle Clubs are good clubs, and good people. They do a lot of good things, like raise money for good causes. There’s a lot of difference between the power clubs and the good ole boys type Motorcycle Clubs. Most groups are all about riding, and helping your brother’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And don’t support any power club. We try to get along with them all !!!!!!!!! When you belong to a power club, the club is your whole life. That means dieing or pulling time for your colors if required. It’s a serious commitment, and everything about it is serious. You defend your club with everything in your power. It’s a different way of living. If you value your life, all power clubs require respect !!!!!! It’s not a perfect world. | ||
| Light_keeper |
Last week we had a shooting in a Portland Maine Tatoo parlor. Seems the Outlaws and the Hells Angels have a beef here too. There was a guy in the parlor with Nam Vets colors on and he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/050421shootingfolo.shtml | ||
| P0p0k0pf |
Gangs like those are completely idiotic. Nothing more than a bunch of self-important pr!ck$ looking for a reason to kill someone. Someone does not deserve to die simply because they are in a certain geographical location that offends you. | ||
| Mikej |
Hatred is hatred. Has nothing to do with biker gangs, has nothing to do with drug gangs, has nothing to do with racial gangs, has nothing to do with territorial gangs. Hatred is hatred. Get along or get along, leave your colors and attitude outside the door. A border could be considered a door. | ||
| Xbolt12 |
The guy's family should sue the Hell's Angels. Now that would be ironic since the scumbags are now into marketing.... | ||
| Scitz |
Yeah, they should have to copyright, trademark, or register there logo. With the popularity of choppers I would like to see some big name company rip the Hell's Angels style and market it. They can give all the death threats they want but unless the logo is copyrighted they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. | ||
| Robxb |
it's amazing, you can buy their shirts over the internet now. | ||
| Jlnance |
I hate to ask questions that show how ignorant I am, but considering that I could get killed for not knowing... What are colors? | ||
| Outrider |
Hey Norris...If you like the MC's so much, why don't you talk your wife or girl friend into going through the initiation. Just kidding, but think about it. Lots of things I could have said in this post but didn't for the sake of decency. | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Hey Jim It's a jacket with at least three patches. One patch with the club logo one patch with the name of the club One patch that just says MC The MC stands motorcycle club, and that's the patch that gets you in trouble. | ||
| Norrisperformance |
Somebody wrote one time, that only 1% of motorcyclist were bad. Now the power groups refer to their self’s as 1 % groups. The group I belong to does not support any power group and we try to stay neutral. All groups will protect their brothers when needed. After all it’s a family! | ||
| Mikej |
Colors:  (found at http://motorcyclecity.com/skulls/Outlaws.jpg) More here: http://www.outlawsdaytona.com/ComingTogetherofColors.htm Lots more with simple google.com searches. (Message edited by mikej on April 26, 2005) | ||
| Taxman |
i was lead to believe that 1%er was originally meant to describe the people that were full time bike riders where that was there main form of transportation. and that the other 99% of the biker crowd were leisure bikers that enjoyed the occasional weekend ride. then later on in california the police departments started referencing 1%ers to crimes that were happening and the meaning was shifted in the public eye. | ||
| Outrider |
Norris...nice to read your MC is on the up'n'up and thanks for understanding my last post. Last year I was present during a few female initiations and things have not changed much since the 60's. I guess the problem is in the new labeling. IE: Motorcycle Gangs are now calling themselves Motorcycle Clubs in order to change their image and to get the heat off their backs. Unfortunately, this reflects negatively on honest MC's. Now for the interesting question. Why do you need a MC for protection? |
