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Buellman39
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm getting ready to put on my new DRUMMER, my current mods are
2004 XB12R
DeSnorkle
NGK Iridium plugs
Cut airbox
TFI
Stock ECM
K&N filter

I'm planning on getting it dynoed but wanted a baseline to start with. I'm running a D&D right now and I heard that the DRUMMER needs more fuel, but everyone seems to be running race ECM's
and mines stock.
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you get the loud Drummer or the muscle Drummer.

If you got the loud.
4,7,6,8.25

If you got the muscle.
4,5,4,8.25

This is only my opinion learned
from doing testing for kevin.
And I'm guessing, because I have a race ecm

And only a starting place.

You can call me when your on the dyno, or
if you need any help. 919 413 8290

I can tell ya how to tweak it in pretty
quick on the dyno.

Called the muscle Drummer, because it sounds
like the old muscle cars.
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Buellman39
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So your saying that I should start with these settings with the stock ECM. I bought the loud version.

4,7,6,8.25
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeap
The loud Drummer takes a lot of gas.
Ride a give ecm time to learn.


Oh yeah, when you get it set up right.
She will stand up like crazy in first
even sometimes at less than half throttle.

Keep the rubber side down!
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Johnk3
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB9, Stock ECM and Force pipe
3,5,3,7:30

these settings work really, almost no hesitation in the lower revs, none at all >3500.
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I put the new drummer on last night and used settings 4,7,6,7.5 seems rich on top end so tonight when I get home from work I,m going to try 3,7,4,7.5 If anyone has any other settings with a XB12 and drummer let me know.
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Hogs
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Buellman39,

Whats makes you think it is "Rich" on the top end??
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It lays off at around 4500 to 4800 and I only rode it last night for about 20 minutes and there is black carbon on the end of the fatlet.

I don't know what do you think hogs?
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Hogs
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I`m not real sure pal, But I wd. not put too much faith on just the black on the fatlet...Just thought you might have had a handle on it yourself hard to tell on the injected models without some means or another...But since you are with the TFI it may be your setting
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm going to get it dynoed as soon as possible to get the A/F dialed in.
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your going to see some black on the fatlet
when it's set up right.

Ride some, shut it off ride some more.
You'll find the more you ride the stronger
it will run.
Dobeck now says to set 4th pot on the Buells
at at least 8.

Don't worry so much about adjusting, just ride.
After about 30 miles or so, you should know
if the bike is having a problem. Then address
that problem, keep a log of all your changes.
And make small adjustments, one pot at a time.

lol
Mike
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just made an appointment at lancaster harley to dyno my bike. They are going to get me in may 4

I will let everyone know what settings I end up with.
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How does it sound?????????
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Tatsu
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like a sound clip of the new loud and muscle drummer. I have the original drummer on my bike.
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds better than my D&D. Quieter at idle and when cruising at around 3000 rpm, but when you get on it sounds bad . Like I said earlier only 20 minutes of ride time last night, I will change that after work today.
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Hogs
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buellman39, Did you ever sell your d&d then, let me know..
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sale pending payment
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Call me if I can help in any way.

You get the right side or left?

Left points at the ground when it's on the side stand.
Right points up and sounds louder at idle.
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought the left side outlet for the sole reason that when I ride with someone else I always ride on the left, that way I don't slam there ears out
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tatsu
From testing for Kevin, I'd say you can
gain a good amount of more power with the
loud.

$150.00 will get your pipe updated.
You will really be pleased.
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good thinking.

Cooooooool
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Tatsu
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I might have to do that. Send it back and get a update. Besides the dealer poked a hole in the pipe and I like to get that welded back up. What's the deal with the new 12 pipe?
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kevin says it has more volume, which is needed
for the bigger displacement of the 12.

He put the same set up on Tilley’s race bike.
Which is a bored out nine.
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Hawkdriver
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Norris... What is the normal turn around time for the whole Drummer conversion?
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Tatsu
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So does the new 12 come in a loud version? I'm trying to figure out how loud is loud. I don't want to blast the neighbors out of bed.
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Buellman39
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The normal turn around is about one week

The new 12 DRUMMER loud version is not loud as hell idling or cruising around town, but get on it and it barks.
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How does it run??
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Buellman39
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Runs real good

Compaired to the D&D pulls hard from the bottom of the rpm range instead of hitting real hard at 4000 like the D&D does. Drops off before 5200.
I'm getting it dynoed may 4 to get the A/F set
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buellman39
If it feels like it's dropping off @5200
I think she needs more fuel.
Is your third set on 6?

My Bike pulls to red line.

lol
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