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Briz31
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:12 am: |
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Greetings all, just wishing to share the installation of my new Jardine RT.1 Also added (K&N + 12 Airbox, TFI). Some of you with Jardine Slip-on exhausts were (from previous threads) concerned with the loudness, as the Jardine Insert was far too restrictive, I have re-engineered the insert, with a inside taper to direct the flow to double "O" Ring seals with 3x grub screws to secure. Outlet was reduced from 55mm ID to 40mm ID, currently under testing to determine if this will replicate an expansion chamber and lift the mid range, hence you will lose a little from the top end, but we don't always ride at 110%.. Results will follow in another thread at a later date. But for now, here's some photos. Jardine Insert, Alloy.
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Rigga
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 03:59 am: |
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keep us informed on how that insert affects performance,and if it helps on the low end pick up...... turned out nice hasn't it |
Ingemar
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 07:55 am: |
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Looks good man. |
Pcmodeler
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 08:32 am: |
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Man, the bottom of that bike sure is clean. For sure, let us know how the insert turns out for both noise and performance as I've got the Jardine and have to drive by a cops house in order to get out of the neighborhood. No complaints so far, but I've only driven the bike with the Jardine on 3 times. |
Tucsonxb9s
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:15 am: |
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Where does the insert go in..the front or the rear? (Gawd that sounds wrong!) I'm curious because if it's easy to install I would mind having one. Plug it in when you have a long cruise in front of you then remove it when you get to your twisty destination. Let us know how you like it! |
Rigga
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:24 am: |
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it inserts in the rear of the pipe........ jardine already market one but its smaller than the one briz has designed and fabricated....the jardine one does a good job of silencing the noisy exhaust but also robs it of some decent power.... briz's one being a larger id should not be as bad hopefully |
Wheelsleaning
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:09 pm: |
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I'll let ye all in on a little physics secret. You don't want to lower the volume of the exhaust. NOOO, you don't. You want to lower the volume for the pilot of the bike. To do this you need to "direct" the sound away from you. Just weld on a small extension onto the end of the Jardine. This will keep most of the sound away from your head. I am currently working on this for my bike. |
Captainplanet
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:54 pm: |
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Briz, Did your Jardine come with the updated fairing brackets? If so, do you have any pics with the brackets on without the fairing attached? Thanks |
Xbolt12
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 03:41 pm: |
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Cool, Let us Jardine users know how it works. xbolt12 |
Citified
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 06:53 pm: |
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what is this "too loud" I keep hearing about? |
Briz31
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 07:21 pm: |
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SORRY I DIDN'T GET ANY PHOTOS OF THE BRACKETS IN PLACE. Yes it came with the UPDATES BRACKETS, they are BLACK, Mild steel.. BUT one of the bolt locations is about 1/4" out, so you have to slot out one side. They are a real mission to install. LEFT SIDE. 1. Unbolt your kickstand, remove one Hex-head cap screw from gearbox. 2. Position the bracket under the bike then replace the kickstand, using existing bolts, you will see the small tab that sits up next to the gearbox bolt location, screw back in the Hex-head cap screw, securing the tab next to the gearbox. RIGHT SIDE: 1. unscrew the nuts on the idler pulley and unscrew the nut on the "S" Bent front of the exhaust. ** this is where you will notice the front tab hole does not line up on the "S" bend bolt. SLOT the side out.... REMEMBER TO COAT THE SLOT WITH SOME NAIL POLISH TO SEAL AGAINST RUSTING, ps, your partner won't know, just don't let her catch you using it... If she does, just say, "does this colour look good on me".... she won't ask you again... ha ha...Ok... 2. position the bracket on the idler pulley bolts and slot over the front bolt. 3. place washers etc and bolts back in place, tighten up and the brackets are in place. Use the two black blots/nuts to hold the front chin spoiler together, yeah I didn't like this concept either. Lift the spoiler into place, use the existing TORX plus the supplied lock-nuts, they are tricky to gain access but can be done, use a small slide spanner for holding the lock-nuts. I tell you, the service people will hate you as they will have to remove it all (chin spoiler)when you change the oil filter, but so be it. I was lots of fun and a great learning experience to do.. As for the insert, I have a good feeling about it, also better than the standard Jardine Insert, not as restrictive, also more bulky, better fit and seal. Taper inside edge will direct the flow and not have a rebounding effect back up the pipe, hopefully only a back pressure, which will increase low/mid range HP. The Jardine regular insert is well, cheap you pay for what you get.. Basically an ALLOY DISC. I have engineered a directional reducing plug with a 40mm outlet, I don't expect a great DB reduction, just enough I feel to minimise the attention of the coppers.. Above all, THe JARDINE in a great slip-on exhaust, BANG for your Buck $$.. Just needs the little extra fine tuning... Thanks for the feedback, appreciated... Will let you know the results.. Cheers. |
Captainplanet
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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Briz, I have the jardine insert in mine. It does have a taper just like the one in your pic. It is smaller in diameter though. I'll try to post pics when I get home later. |
Captainplanet
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 06:06 pm: |
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Here are some pics of the stock jardine quiet module.
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Rigga
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 02:44 am: |
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that sure is a lot smaller than the one briz has made...sure explains why the power loss is so pronounced with the jardine quiet insert fitted |
Wheelsleaning
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 12:46 pm: |
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Ouch, that hurts. |
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