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Joe7bros
Posted on Friday, June 01, 2018 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The Reason: I'm Short

The Question: "Will Scg forks and shock swap onto an 1125CR". And vice-versa.

At 5'5" and a 29" inseam, the 1125CR seat height is a bit high; I know because I had one.

Well , I think that about covers it. Thanks
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Stevel
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2018 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a huge problem and it is poorly addressed by the industry. Today's sport bike style by all manufacturers fit taller people only. People with inseam lengths of less than 31 inches can barely reach the ground with their toes when stopped. I suffer the same thing. You can lower the front forks easy enough in the triple clamps, but lowering the rear with shock length change upsets the frame geometry and it really effects handling. If you modify the subframe, you can lose an inch. If you wish to go lower, you must raise the swingarm pivot point that same distance.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2018 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Today's sport bike style by all manufacturers fit taller people only




All? Not sure about that statement.

True that the repli-racers usually have higher rear sets for lean angle, thus a higher seat generally to have a little legroom. Other than flat-footing, longer legs is generally a disadvantage on a sportbike.

Longer arms/torso however is generally an advantage as it lessens the aggressive reach of the repli-racer clip-ons..

As much as I love the performance and looks of today's repli-racers, no way in hell would I ever buy one. Every time I goto the races or IMS and sit on the latest and greatest repli-racers, I think to myself "HELLLLL NO." Torture rack.

Nah, in my 40s now. Still not sure what I'll buy when the 1125R bites the dust...more than likely a version of the repli-racer with more relaxed ergos and the same motor (tuned for better lower end power.)

(Message edited by fresnobuell on June 02, 2018)
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Stevel
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2018 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harlan,
Yes, of course "all" is undoubtedly over the top, but I know of no sport bike model that fits short legged people, perhaps others do. Personally, I find that today's sport/race bike style and riding position ugly for both aesthetic and functional reasons. Although I own 2 1125R bikes, I cannot ride them for more than two hours and then I really need to get off. I'm a real fan of the '60s style Café racer. I believe that represents the best compromise between high performance and reasonable comfort.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2018 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I kinda think the 1125R is good for shorter people. I have 30" inseam and I can reach the ground with both balls of my feet and get enough push (granted it's tiny steps and slow) to move "us" adequately in those situations.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2018 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

29"inseam here. I don't know who modded my CR or what they did to it but I'm flat footed on it. Its my 3rd one and I was on my toes on the other two.
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Araignee
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found a local upholstery shop that reduced my seat height. They unstapled the stock cover and trimmed the foam, retaining the flat stock profile and reshaped the front section, then put the stock cover back on.

You'd have to have a good eye and compare it side-by-side with a stock seat to spot the differences.

I feel much more integrated into the bike now, rather than perched on top of the original saddle. Easier to reach the ground when stationary, but not by much. The lower CG and improved mass centralization is very noticeable. It is now easier to rest part of my weight on the tank to relieve strain on my wrists if needed.

Way less hassle than messing with geometry changes.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's foam in the stock seat?

Seriously, I would never have thought you could take out foam. It seems minimal already.
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Barraspalding
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently bought a replacement pair of riding boots, which have a considerably thinner heel/sole compared to the colorado boots i've been riding with for the last year. Find landing my right foot with less confidence but feel far safer with appropriate footwear.

Add thicker soled boots with the shaved seat and it may help : )
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Joe7bros
Posted on Monday, June 04, 2018 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shaved foam out of the seat, about 3/4 inch from the top, almost all the foam from the sides; I wear Gaerne adv boots for the thicker bottoms, and it's almost enough, until the bike is sitting on a high spot in the road and the low spot is right where you need to put a foot down
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Coastrambler
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a Corbin seat several years ago now. I right away felt more into the bike. It's a little flatter than the stock seat, not very thick, thereby lower. It does make for a larger butt print so it's more comfortable. It makes sliding your butt into turns less doable.
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Captjoe
Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2018 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard there was a company somewhere out east redeveloping rack torture devices for home use to help solve just this type of issue. Apparently, they've had moderate success with a slow, consist pull, however, things can go horribly wrong when your wife is manning the controls and you've been less than a perfect husband.

Sorry couldn't resist a mid morning giggle : )
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Kevmean
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2018 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most professional racers tend to be small so i'd say most sports bikes seem to be more suited to tiny riders.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nah., they can barely touch the ground as well.
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Robertl
Posted on Monday, October 15, 2018 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a guy on east coast of FL that replaces the stock foam with a gel foam and offers to lower 1" if needed:
http://www.greatdaytoride.com/faq.html

It's not the thickness of the seat that's the problem but rather the type of foam used. Old school theory is "add more for better comfort". Lots has changed since that oem foam was designed.

I had a Saddleman on mine and although more comfortable than stock, and cooler, it was at least 1/2-1" taller. Not a problem for my legs but did change the handling and feel.
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