| Author | Message | ||
     Ebrfan |
Does anyone here use the K and P Engineering stainless steel mesh oil filters? Part number S27. I use a similar mesh filter made by Flo Oil in my Harleys and was thinking of going this route on the EBR, even though it is much thinner oil than the 60wt I run in them. What do you 1125 guys and racers think of using a washable mmetal mesh filter with our thin synthetic oil? | ||
| D_adams |
I don't recall who it was, but I did see one absolutely crushed from the oil pressure when it got clogged up. Fairly certain it destroyed the bearings in the motor from oil starvation. | ||
| Phlegm |
My bike has 36000 miles on it now. I've had the stainless oil filter since 20k with no problems. I've taken it to the track at least 6 times and go to the drag strip a couple times a year. I have made sure to inspect it closely after seeing the pics that Dean is referring to above. (Message edited by phlegm on May 03, 2016) | ||
| Phlegm |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/736591.html?1396855552 | ||
| Ebrfan |
Thanks for the input guys. After reading the thread on that collapsed filter, and calling the manufacturer, I am going to give one a shot in the EBR. Based on the thread of the collapsed filter, it appears the collapse started from the engine breakdown, and then they both worked together, (engine top end oil starvation due to his oil mod and the filter clogging with debris furthering the starvation until it collapsed) to cause the combined failures. I am going to get a mesh filter from K and P Engineering and do a few timed flow tests first, before just throwing one in my machine, to see how the mesh filers compare to a stock EBR paper filter. If anyone has any other pearls of knowledge about these filters, or about paper filters for that matter, I'd be glad to hear them... | ||
| Ebrfan |
A word of advice on those paper filters... I bought several K&N 564 filters and discovered that the glue around the top and bottom pleats may not go all the way around the stamped metal and into the pleats, causing unfiltered oil to flow past the pleats. Upon looking at other manufactured brands of these type of filters, they too have the same faults in their glue applications. 2 out of the five filters I examined were shoddy in manufacture and one would bypass unfiltered oil for sure. I just got my K and P Engineering S27 filter and, with careful inspection, it is glued well and machined well. More to come on its flow characteristics. | ||
| Ebrfan |
So I got the K & P Engineering S27 metal mesh filter this week. It looks just as sweet and as well put together as the screw on filters they make for Harley applications. The timed flow tests I did were between this filter and a new K&N 564, and used a new quart of Amsoil 20-50 full synthetic v-twin oil. The first flow test was with both filters new and dry, and timed until each filter completely flowed a quart of oil through the filter, ending when they each dripped consistently. It took over twice as long to flow the quart of oil through the paper filter than the metal mesh filter. 3 minutes for the metal filter versus 7.5 minutes for the paper. A second and third tests were done with both filters now wet. These were timed starting when the filter was poured full and ending when the quart of oil was emptied into the filter, and the filter still full of oil. The quart was emptied in 1 minute in the metal filter and took over three minutes in the paper filter. For whatever reason the flow rate (and pour rate) was about the same with the wet metal filter but significantly slower with a wet filter. I'll be installing the metal filter after my next track day oil change for sure, and keeping track of the debris left in the filter and in bottom of my oil change pan. |
