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Panshovevo
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2015 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



I was passing a couple of cars yesterday while riding with the wife on the back, and the car in front accelerated.
I think it might have been a Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder (or whatever they called the turbocharged version).
It didn't take much extra throttle to get around it, as I already had a good handful, but it pissed me off.

I got back in the right lane and slowed down to see who or what I was dealing with, being prepared for most possiblities.

The car held back for a while, until my speed dropped to somewhere around 50 mph, then pulled out to pass.

As it approached my left side, I saw a female and a dog in the passenger seat, so I just cranked on the throttle again.

Once again it didn't take long to pull away from the car, and when the wind noise and arm strain told me I was approaching triple digit speeds, I upshifted and backed off the throttle.i

About the same time, I realized I'd been carrying the front wheel for quite some time, the wife was not at all happy about it, and she was doing her damnest to let me know about it.
; )
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Rocketjump
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And that sir, is a good day.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it may help to increase the preload on the rear shock. ; )
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How can you not know the front wheel is in the air? To me, the sensation is unmistakable when rubber leaves tarmac.

PS, WTF is up with all the passive aggressive broads on the road these days? If they don't have their heads buried in their iPhone, they are up your ass with the front bumper. It the car becoming a pseudo-penis these days?
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good question Fresnobuell. A kinder, gentler nation we are not...
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Captjoe
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sorry and I may be the only one, but I don't see what the female driver did wrong here.

First you were passing cars. Fair enough. A car sees you approaching in the mirror and speeds up for what could be any number of reasons... one being, she thought she was going too slow. If you were already in the process of passing her and she sped up, then I can see the issue here but from what you wrote, it doesn't seem that was the case.

Second, you passed her and then decided to slow down to 50, you don't mention the speed limit or what type of road it was ( 2 lanes, 4 lanes, highway ), but anyway, she eventually caught up to you probably because she was doing the same constant speed while you were slowing. At that point, she pulled out to pass and you blocked her by speeding up which seems to be what you were complaining about her doing initially. The only difference is you weren't in the process of passing her when she sped up.

So exactly, what did she do that was so wrong that pissed you off so much?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im with Joe, she passed you (just as you did her) and yet shes the bad guy here?

If she sped up to try to prevent you from passing then thats crummy, but the second part of the story she did nothing wrong
Hell, youre the one going triple digits lol
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As I read it, she punched the gas in response to being passed. That's bullshit as you are playing a deadly game there. Luckily the OP was on a sportbike, which makes quick work of asshats like this lady. Now, what is not disclosed is if there was traffic up ahead of the biker after the pass. If there WAS traffic, then you could say what's the point of passing in the first place? If there wasn't traffic ahead, then IMO the OP should have just left the car in the dust and been done with it.

Playing with cars (no matter who is right or wrong) is never a good idea.

Did you not see the video with the old retarded guy in TX?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"As I read it, she punched the gas in response to being passed. That's bullshit as you are playing a deadly game there. "

Exactly, and he did it right back to her...
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Come on guy's you have to admit that it's not cool when you riding your motorcycle and pass someone in a car and as soon as they see that you try to pass them they accelerate!

So he did the same thing to make the driver aware of his action.

I would say it's better to pass and ride on ,or don't pass and take a left or right turn.
It's not worth it to make it more dangerous as it already is
Especially with your loved on on the back!

Enjoy the ride and leaf stupid things lot's of corners behind You!

(Message edited by Brother in buells on December 15, 2015)
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, its not cool to pass someone and they speed up...
I think we all agree on that, including the OP, which, seems, is what pissed him off initially.
That said - he did the same thing.
Pot, meet kettle.
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Hatch_daddy
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a wise game to play with a passenger...unless you were trying to ditch the wife in the process
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Captjoe
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the key sentence is this one:

"I was passing a couple of cars yesterday while riding with the wife on the back, and the car in front accelerated."

And the car IN FRONT accelerated. There's nothing wrong with the car in front accelerating. If she's got him sticking inches from her rear bumper then there's no surprise she accelerated, who wouldn't? What should she do? Jam on the brakes and watch him disappear under her car from behind?

Now if he's passing and she accelerated, yes I can see his point for being pissed off and I think we all agree on that. However, that "IN FRONT" in his sentence would seem to indicate she's still in front of him so he hadn't started passing at that point. Of course the confusion on my part may be just because of the way he wrote his post and the car may well have done something stupid, but from his post, I just can't understand what it was....
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Panshovevo
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow...

I may respond to some of this when I have time...or not.

I will say that I was probably focused on what the GUY in the driver's seat was doing when the front wheel left the road.
Edited to add: As he had increased his rate of acceleration as well.

(Message edited by Panshovevo on December 16, 2015)
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Panshovevo
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been a member of this forum for about 7 months now, and just now realized how many armchair quarterbacks are onboard, waiting to misinterpret and criticize a personal post.

I'm going to give one primary example of the misinterpretation and leave it at that.


The key word in the first sentence is PASSING, as in accelerating to a speed higher than that of the cars in the right lane, while overtaking them in the left lane.

Little wonder this forum is so rarely used, other than tech.

Edited to add that many seem to have missed the point of the post, which was how much I enjoy the performance of the bike.
Not who was a jerk, or who was wrong or right.



(Message edited by Panshovevo on December 16, 2015)
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand exactly what you are saying Panshovevo. I too have experienced the competitiveness that you describe. I suppose these drivers want to feel like they are keeping up and the pass may be that 'wake up call' that brings out these ass hats?

Out here on the left coast, I have noticed the same with cars in traffic, coasting up to a red light with traffic in front of you brings out the 'boy racers' and their stop light gran prix. They just have to get in front of you...

I have heard LEO's on FB say when you come up on a drunk driver to get past them. Getting past a drunk could get you run off the road and staying back could also eventually collect you up as well. Another damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario.

Your thoughtful posts have not gone unnoticed.

Merry Christmas, Kwanza, Festivus, Holiday Panshovevo!
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Panshovevo
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Dan, same to you.

One of the disadvantages of living where I do is nearly all the roads are straight lines, with an occasional curve here and there, so I have to get my kicks out of hard acceleration, and exceeding the ridiculously low speed limits on the rare slightly curvy road.

I may expand later on why I have a thing about people who accelerate when being passed.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is that point where backing off is harder than going faster. backing off would make being around the ass hat under severe braking, I don't think a passenger riding up my back to the point of a front suspension collapse? Then having to fall back in? I understand the throttle argument for bikes and cars.

It is not IF you have throttled out but WHEN. I had a lady squeeze me to the guard rail on a freeway overpass. I was at the speed limit, at her door... Do you brake and get squeezed or hit or throttle? I looked down at the freeway underneath me and decided if I was going to learn to fly it was going to be on my terms! Throttle and down 1 gear, lots of noise and she kept coming! bye bye!
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Zhen13
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know what all the drama is about? But can say Panshovevo has helped more times then I can count and have seen him go out of his way to help others. The post was about the love he has for his 1125 and scaring his wife=).
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Captjoe
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This really sounds like a Mrsuperbuckets thread....
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mr Superbuckets LOL. You mean the US Marshal? Good call, I was just thinking about that thread.


I will admit to not catching the part about the female/dog in the passenger seat. I thought she was driving.
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Panshovevo
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:


Captjoe
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 - 06:50 pm:
This really sounds like a Mrsuperbuckets thread....




You mean the US Marshall that didn't know how to spell Marshal?

How so?
Please enlighten me.
I'm looking forward to it.
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Arrrrrrr
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can honestly say, that video of angry pappy in Texas swerving the motorcycle off the road prompted me to get a helmet cam, videos don't lie... I love riding my 1125R also...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

funny, i broke out my go Pro after that incident as I had the same thought process. If there wasn't a video of that incident, more than likely the old man would have gotten off MUCH easier. Video doesn't lie as mentioned and doesn't mis-interpret either. I just have to find a permanent mounting point on the bike that doesn't vibrate as much as the nose of the front fairing.
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Panshovevo
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What video is that?

Anyone have a link?
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Azxb9r
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of my pet peeves is people that accelerate when you pull out to pass them.They are often the same people that drive 10mph under the limit in no-passing zones.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...or doing the speed limit in the fast lane and when you move right to pass, they accelerate and attempt to stay in front. I really can see why people shoot each other on the freeway.
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