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Sl33py
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2014 - 08:31 pm: | 
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Hmm... good thing or bad? I periodically check EBR's site looking for some parts (locking tools, rotor hardware, etc.)
Saw the sutter clutch setup increased $100 and now a bunch of other parts say "See your EBR dealer". Gas caps up to 199 and same.
Love to see their parts become easier to locate and local dealers, but my closest is quite a ways...  or  ? |
Sprintst
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 04:57 am: |
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Hmm, hopefully that improves the situation, gives some competition, some stock/inventory. |
Sprintst
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 04:59 am: |
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Don't forget their new partnership with parts unlimited
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/575/18862/Motorcycle -Article/Erik-Buell-Racing-Partners-with-Parts-Unl imited.aspx |
Figorvonbuellingham
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 07:14 am: |
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That's too bad. The dealers are going to rape us. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:56 am: |
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Nice attitude.
Dealers have to be vetted by...guess who?...THE FACTORY.
These are not Harley dealers.
These are dealers who have approached the factory, gone through an extensive interview process, and been APPROVED to become EBR dealers. |
Levor
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 05:05 am: |
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Doesn't mean they won't charge out the ass or otherwise provide poor service (then again, doesn't mean they WILL be terrible, either!)
Car dealerships are started much the same way.
I think people's skepticism is well founded, if prices are increasing at the factory source level, they're certainly going to be increasing at the dealer level as well - after all, they gotta make their money somewhere. Ideally, they won't be able to charge more than EBR does for parts that EBR also sells direct. |
Terrys1980
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 07:38 am: |
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The price on the website most likely has gone up to accommodate the dealers. The dealer can not charge higher than the EBR MSRP.
Most of the dealerships that are carrying EBR are superbike shops so I doubt the service will be bad. |
D_adams
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 07:55 am: |
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quote:The dealer can not charge higher than the EBR MSRP
That's funny, Surdyke is trying to sell the bikes for $21k (1190RX) and the msrp is $18995, with a $2000 discount right now which brings it down to $16995. I can't even get parts/spares through them yet, I've asked several times. Maybe it's misinformed sales guys, I dunno. |
Nikoff90
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 08:45 am: |
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I suspect part of having dealers in contract is relinquishing the ability to sell direct to consumers. |
Terrys1980
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 09:28 am: |
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That's a Harley dealership for you.. |
Hybridmomentspass
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 12:18 pm: |
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keep in mind what the S stands for in MSRP |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 01:18 pm: |
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quote:I suspect part of having dealers in contract is relinquishing the ability to sell direct to consumers.
I bet they want to get away from selling nickel and dime to consumers...this has to eat up limited resources.
I am also sure they would like to get away from being the source of info from Buell legacy owners as well. I know I am guilty of inquiring via email too many times (to EBRs credit they have always responded, except for my last email which I sent twice)...my guess is they are inundated by emails seeking information as there is really no other authority. |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 03:18 pm: |
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The "can't charge above MSRP" is a legacy of price controls (which failed miserably) during a time where we attempted to "stabilize" things for 90 days. That was pretty munch where MSRP was born to serve as a standard. It's lingered as a simple means of comparing things but has, as most of us know, little to do with actual sales price.
Dealers, and this is at the root of capitalism., are free to charge what they wish.
Don't believe me . . . . try to buy a Porsche 911 Turbo, front row tickets to James Taylor at Tanglewood, U. S. Open or Yankess tickets for "Suggested Retail". You'll find they are selling for thousands above "MSRP".
quote:Executive Order 11615 - Providing for Stabilization of Prices, Rents, Wages, and Salaries
August 15, 1971
WHEREAS, in order to stabilize the economy, reduce inflation, and minimize unemployment, it is necessary to stabilize prices, rents, wages, and salaries; and
WHEREAS, the present balance of payments situation makes it especially urgent to stabilize prices, rents, wages, and salaries in order to improve our competitive position in world trade and to protect the purchasing power of the dollar:
Now, THEREFORE, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970 (P.L. 91-379, 84 Stat. 799), as amended, it is hereby ordered as follows:
SECTION 1. (a) Prices, rents, wages, and salaries shall be stabilized for a period of 90 days from the date hereof at levels not greater than the highest of those pertaining to a substantial volume of actual transactions by each individual, business, firm or other entity of any kind during the 30-day period ending August 14, 1971, for like or similar commodities or services. If no transactions occurred in that period, the ceiling will be the highest price, rent, salary or wage in the nearest preceding 30-day period in which transactions did occur. No person shall charge, assess, or receive, directly or indirectly in any transaction prices or rents in any form higher than those permitted hereunder, and no person shall, directly or indirectly, pay or agree to pay in any transaction wages or salaries in any form, or to use any means to obtain payment of wages and salaries in any form, higher than those permitted hereunder, whether by retroactive increase or otherwise.
(b) Each person engaged in the business of selling or providing commodities or services shall maintain available for public inspection a record of the highest prices or rents charged for such or similar commodities or services during the 30-day period ending August 14, 1971.
(c) The provisions of sections 1 and 2 hereof shall not apply to the prices charged for raw agricultural products.
SEC. 2. (a) There is hereby established the Cost of Living Council which shall act as an agency of the United States and which is hereinafter referred to as the Council.
(b) The Council shall be composed of the following members: The Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Agriculture, the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Labor, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, the Director of the Office of Emergency Preparedness, and the Special Assistant to the President for Consumer Affairs. The Secretary of the Treasury shall serve as Chairman of the Council and the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers shall serve as Vice Chairman. The Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System shall serve as adviser to the Council.
(c) Under the direction of the Chairman of the Council a Special Assistant to the President shall serve as Executive Director of the Council, and the Executive Director is authorized to appoint such personnel as may be necessary to assist the Council in the performance of its functions.
SEC. 3. (a) Except as otherwise provided herein, there are hereby delegated to the Council all of the powers conferred on the President by the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970.
(b) The Council shall develop and recommend to the President additional policies, mechanisms, and procedures to maintain economic growth without inflationary increases in prices, rents, wages, and salaries after the expiration of the 90-day period specified in Section 1 of this Order.
(c) The Council shall consult with representatives of agriculture, industry, labor and the public concerning the development of policies, mechanisms and procedures to maintain economic growth without inflationary increases in prices, rents, wages, and salaries.
(d) In all of its actions the Council will be guided by the need to maintain consistency of price and wage policies with fiscal, monetary, international and other economic policies of the United States.
(e) The Council shall inform the public, agriculture, industry, and labor concerning the need for controlling inflation and shall encourage and promote voluntary action to that end.
SEC. 4. (a) The Council, in carrying out the provisions of this Order, may (i) prescribe definitions for any terms used herein, (ii) make exceptions or grant exemptions, (iii) issue regulations and orders, and (iv) take such other actions as it determines to be necessary and appropriate to carry out the purposes of this Order.
(b) The Council may redelegate to any agency, instrumentality or official of the United States any authority under this Order, and may, in administering this Order, utilize the services of any other agencies, Federal or State, as may be available and appropriate.
(c) On request of the Chairman of the Council, each Executive department or agency is authorized and directed, consistent with law, to furnish the Council with available information which the Council may require in the performance of its functions.
(d) All Executive departments and agencies shall furnish such necessary assistance as may be authorized by section 214 of the Act of May 3, 1945 (59 Stat. 134; 31 U.S.C. 691).
SEC. 5. The Council may require the maintenance of appropriate records or other evidence which are necessary in carrying out the provisions of this Order, and may require any person to maintain and produce for examination such records or other evidence, in such form as it shall require, concerning prices, rents, wages, and salaries and all related matters. The Council may make such exemptions from any requirement otherwise imposed as are consistent with the purposes of this Order. Any type of record or evidence required under regulations issued under this Order shall be retained for such period as the Council may prescribe.
SEC. 6. The expenses of the Council shall be paid from such funds of the Treasury Department as may be available therefor.
SEC. 7. (a) Whoever willfully violates this Order or any order or regulation issued under authority of this Order shall be fined not more than $5,000 for each such violation.
(b) The Council shall in its discretion request the Department of Justice to bring actions for injunctions authorized under Section 205 of the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970 whenever it appears to the Council that any person has engaged, is engaged, or is about to engage in any acts or practices constituting a violation of any regulation or order issued pursuant to this Order.
RICHARD NIXON
The White House
August 15, 1971
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D_adams
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 03:36 pm: |
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I did ask them if they had sold very many, the answer was "no..." so I then asked them, why not? No answer. Charging $2k more than the MSRP after the factory announces a $2000 price reduction from it? Surely not, that CAN'T have anything to do with slow sales, can it? I have a very good idea what the markup on the 1190RX is, and even with the discount, they'd STILL make a little bit of a profit. Me personally, I'd rather make a little money all the time than hit that one "big sale" once a month or whatever the frequency of sales are.
Make money on volume sales. Hmm, I've heard of a large company in India that does just that... |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 04:11 pm: |
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Mahindra
The good news It's that the margin on an EBR, at full boot, pales in comparison to Ducati & BMW. |
Court
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2014 - 12:14 am: |
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Is it just me or has the price increased ?
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