| Author | Message | ||
     Faceyman |
Today, I went for a 400km ride in warm weather, 30C+. I stopped for fuel and went into the service station for a drink. When I came back to my 09 - 1125R, it was pissing fuel out of the vent house near (left rear passenger peg), I mean really pissing fuel; so much I had to ask for some quick dry to clean up. Yes, bike was hot, but it has not done this before, only a few drips here and there. Is this common? | ||
| Puddlepirate |
You must've overfilled it. It's pretty common. Mine did it all the time when it was hot before I got the Cali can | ||
| Faceyman |
Perhaps, I did overfill. Where can you find this Cali can fix you mention? Thanks... | ||
| Stirz007 |
Use thermotech lining when/if you pull the frame - it helps. | ||
| Sl33py |
This is next on my list. Which liner do you guys recommend? Looking for something easy to install. Lay over existing to double up or just fill in bare areas? thx! | ||
| Two_seasons |
You could try this... http://americansportbike.com/newdir/Item/16130 | ||
| Stirz007 |
That's the stuff I used. Basically, line inside surfaces of the frame. You can do much of it without removing engine, but frame-off is a lot easier. | ||
| Sl33py |
For those of you who have added additional thermotec liner - how much did it help? Did you just add it to bare sections, or lay it over (double up) the existing? | ||
| Stirz007 |
My bike had no thermotech or other liner (ie; painted aluminum), from the factory so there was no 'existing' to add to. I haven't had a boil-gas issue since adding it, so I think it helped in my case. | ||
| Hildstrom |
I just finished a little page about trying to get some heat relief of my own. http://hildstrom.com/projects/buellheat/index.html I ceramic coated and wrapped the headers, re-insulated the inside of the frame, added rubber grip pads outside of the frame, and switched to the EBR ECM. That definitely reduced heat transfer to the frame and to my knees. | ||
| Sl33py |
great writeup Hildstrom. Wow i can't believe you burned your knees to the point they blistered!? Ouch. It doesn't get as hot here in the PNW, but my pants were getting "glazed" like i set an iron on them for quite a while (and basically i was). I already have ceramic coated headers and the EBR ECM for my pipe. I just did a full coolant flush w/ Coolant Boost and it's easily reduced temps (Coolant temps registered) by 10-20*. Highest i see is 190 at mid 80's in traffic vs 202-203. Mostly running temps are 170-177 in the AM (in lighter traffic) and 180-190 in Eve traffic (heavier). Absolute highest i've seen was 196 where i was trying to let the car in front know they were going way too slow for Left lane by downshifting a couple times while doing 35'ish. More/additional frame insulation is definitely next on my list. I've noticed less gas vapor and drips at home when it's cooling down. Might be worth a shot (WW or CoolantBoost) if it helps? If you don't get freezing temps often (not super frequent in Seattle) 100% water w/ no glycol is supposed to run a bit cooler than a mix. I might add in 10% glycol in the fall just in case (garaged at home and at work). GL! Rob | ||
| Stirz007 |
The glycol, water wetter, some others, act as lubricant for water pump. Straight water = potentially shorter water pump life. Never run distilled water with no adjunct - if you run straight water, tap water is better than distilled. | ||
| Sl33py |
sorry wasn't more clear. the 100% water i am running is with CoolantBoost in it. No freezing protection, but better cooling for sure. Will add in 10% glycol in the fall to help protect from mild winter here. | ||
| Captjoe |
I'm confused about these products. I'm guessing they just reflect heat away from the coated surfaces, however, they don't dissipate it. So if it gets reflected back towards the engine, wouldn't you see significantly higher engine temps because of it? And continuing on, wouldn't it be more uncomfortable for the rider to have the heat seeping out of the engine right onto the legs? I'm all for cooling the temperature of the frame but not at the sake of sacrificing future fertility!  I'd think the way to go is to figure out a better way of cooling the engine so that the frame and legs don't begin to boil. | ||
| Hildstrom |
Sl33py, thanks. Yeah, I couldn't believe it either. It was a several hour ride in upper 90's. I had pretty thick jeans on, but not proper riding pants. I'll keep Coolant Boost and Water Wetter in mind if I have any other problems. Captjoe, the Thermotec is basically a heat reflector with a small amount of insulation behind it, similar to the factory heat barrier. Yes, this reflects heat back into the engine, but the engine is liquid cooled and has radiators, which are a lot better at dissipating heat than the frame/tank. I agree with you about the cooling method; that's probably one of the reasons they switched to out-flow style radiators on the 1190. | ||
| Puddlepirate |
Water Wetter didn't do anything for my temps or felt heat. Others have reported sat results with it, but I wasn't so lucky. |
