| Author | Message | ||
     Matteson |
So I have the rear wheel off and in the stand. I am thinking of hanging the front from the rafters too. How am I gonna "strap"the rear down? as the manual states. I have read some posts about alignment problems when rotating up. They remedied this by having the old lady sit on the back as they rotate up. So do I need to strap it down in the back? Thanks | ||
| Zac4mac |
You need to anchor the rear somehow. either a clamp or weight. I put ~ 140 lbs of lead and iron on the tail when I do it. Without the weight, everything goes fine until the last inch or two going back up. You try to get the motor to line up with the holes and the rear starts to lift off the floor.  | ||
| D_adams |
Build a cradle for the engine and pull the frame off. | ||
| Matteson |
Undecided about pulling the frame. Fixin to start workin on my 4 runner too so... | ||
| D_adams |
It's 30-45 minutes more work to pull it off. There's only 6 bolts holding the frame to the engine I think, 4 of which come off for the rotate. The other 2 are the pivot point and the lower shock to swingarm bolt. The pita part is the wire harness, there's a couple of hidden or hard to access zip ties between the engine and frame. Otherwise, it's not too hard to remove.  Mine was a rats nest in this pic, I had probably 20' of O2 sensor wiring that I didn't need. It got trimmed out after this pic.  | ||
| Dhays1775 |
The first time I did the valve service on mine, I pulled the front end off, set the rear subframe on top of the engine, and picked the frame up off the bike. I haven't done the rotation method. I though about doing it on the next one. Just over 4k until then. It was actually pretty easy to lift the frame. As far as room to work, there was nothing in the way. I think it took me a total of 8-10 hours from start to finish. I definitely learned a lot about my bike that way.  | ||
| Zac4mac |
I dropped a shim last time I did this. A big word of advice - if you drop a shim, FIND IT. If I had tried to turn my motor, it would have grenaded. Next time, I'm pulling the frame. I need to have it painted anyway. Z | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
Oh dear LORD, not looking forward to this.... Do I need to lift the front end or anything to pull the frame? | ||
| Tbowdre |
>>>>Do I need to lift the front end or anything to pull the frame<<<< Not really to pull the frame per se, but it is way easier to do if you pull the forks and front tire. And for that you need to lift the front. >>>Oh dear LORD<<< Pulling the frame is not a complicated job or even a hard job, but you def do not want to rush or you are sure to forget something, stretch a wire or break a connector.. whatever. Take your time and consider lining the inside of the frame with an insulator, new spark plugs, weeping water pump seals, painting the frame, full exhaust system, ceramic coating exaust HAHAhahaha! etc etc. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Rotating the engine puts everything you need to touch during the valve check accessible, but pulling the frame makes it a whole different(better) trip. With the FSM as your guide and 150 pix on your phone for re-assembly time it's super easy. Pssst - take lots of pix as you dis-assemble. Give yourself plenty of time, the valve check is 8hrs billable flat-rate from H-D to the techs. You have much better access to the valvetrain when you pull the frame. I will take that extra time next time as it will save a ton of time before the job is done. Loretta is due for the next valve check at 37.5k, she's at 28k and not getting much road time now. Zack | ||
| Matteson |
Hell the back tire is already off and I need to pull the front wheel again and replace those bearings because I sure don't want to have to buy another wheel. And I planned on pulling the tubes for the rotate so I might as well tear it all down. Pulling the frame!  | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
OK, dealers aren't an option, I'm a good mechanic with no money. I don't have a lift, and don't have the need or money to do anything extra right now. I was super stoked to pull the frame and doo lotsa fun stuff over winter but I'm just not set up for that. Is just rotating the simpler option? I have to buy better stands too. I have a basic rear stand that I have to use a bar through the taper/axle with, and a basic front stand. |
