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Jimustanguitar
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anybody make a one armed stand for the 1125? The hollow axle seems like it would lend itself well to an axle pin setup. That seems easier to use by yourself than trying to balance the bike and align swingarm pads (I have on 08 with no spools).

I've done a little searching and it seems like almost everybody has the pit-bull for an '08 and everybody else with newer model years has any of the spool models available from lots of other manufacturers...

Am I shooting myself in the foot by wanting a single sided stand when it's tire time? I'm not scared to ratchet strap the whole bike up on the rafters : )
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Am I shooting myself in the foot by wanting a single sided stand when it's tire time?




Take a step back and think about that now.



Axle goes through the swingarm, then the wheel. Single side stand with a pin going into the axle....
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can make a single-sided stand work, but it still has to lift from the bottom like a dual-stand would, it just has the leverage arm on one side.
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Jimustanguitar
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My point about tire time is that the Pit-Bull stand (I think) allows you the clearance to access the axle bolts and remove the wheel. I fully understand that removing the wheel would negate an axle pin's usefulness, but that's the only scenario that I can think of where it wouldn't work. Right?

Is there a known stand that works well in the axle pin configuration on these bikes?
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What makes you think that the pit bull stand that pivots that works on the 08 is tough to operate alone? Just make sure you are tilting slightly towards you and that side connects first. Then you hold the tail while correctly positioning the stand. When it's in the right spot you can let go of the tail, push and done. If you don't rush it it take about 7 seconds.

I would rather use a nice double sided one for all my lifting missions vs. not being able to lift when removing the wheel.
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Mhpalin
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Plus you can remove the rear tire works great
Mike
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Pmjolly
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use a Pitbull brand trailer restraint on my '08 to haul it around for long road trips and a few track days. I bought a second base plate from Pitbull for cheap and used drop in anchors to mount the plate to my garage floor. I only bolt it down when I need it. It grabs the axle from both sides with pins. I used this set up to torque my rotor nut with no worries of it falling over. I also used this to rotate my engine for a valve adjustment. It is extremely solid. I use the same Pitbull stand with the swingarm pads to remove my back wheel.
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Jimustanguitar
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess I'm just hesitant about having to be behind the bike to lift it. My other bikes have center stands that you operate as soon as you dismount. I've seen Ducati guys with the one armed stands pointed forwards like this: http://pirateslair.net/ducpitbull425b.jpg and thought that it looked safer and easier to use.

Can you accidentally push the bike sideways on a swingarm stand and have it slip off of the pads or anything like that? That part of it seems sketchy to me compared to spools or an axle pin too.

I appreciate all of the advice, this has been worthwhile to read so far : )
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Crowley
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use a pin stand on my Ducati 1198. They're very easy and secure to use. Leave the bike on the side stand and put the pin into the axle. Push the bike vertical, and it will rest on the floor very securely. One quick push down, and the bike is in the air. Absolutely no wobbling around at all. (Then one nut, and the wheel drops out)
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Crowley
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've also got one of these stands too www.1jac.com it's utterly brilliant. No more half dismantled bikes cluttering up the bench while you wait for parts. He's interested in making them for Buells too - and has asked for some doner bikes to measure up for the adapter plate on the arm lift.
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Jimustanguitar
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Leave the bike on the side stand and put the pin into the axle. Push the bike vertical, and it will rest on the floor very securely. One quick push down, and the bike is in the air.

That's exactly what I had in mind! Do you know if the Duc pin fits the Buell axle?

I'm interested in the stand for service and convenience much more than I care about how I rig it up for a tire change.
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Nillaice
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2013 - 04:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds to me like you are making the assumption that a single side pin lift like the Ducati guys have for their single sided swingarmed bikes will allow you to change your rear tire just like they do or be able to service your bike on a single pin lift rear stand and have it be stable

I'd think that you would not be able to do that with a single side short pin rear stand with any stability unless that pin is long enough to go all the way thru the axle as had allready been said.

You could make a rear stand with swing arm spools that has the handle on the side instead of in the center like this one from pit bull
http://www.pit-bull.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PR OD&Store_Code=pbmsa&Product_Code=F0043-000&Categor y_Code=

It says it's not recommended for Buell xb bikes ( because it's too narrow) but you could cut and weld in a few inches if pipe to the center and make it wide enough or just make your own if you are handy with a welder. I might get bored and make one for myself this winter

I've strapped my bike up to rafters and even a porch swing frame. I've seen where guys have flipped the rider pegs and used jack stands to hold the bike up.

I'd say to make your own rear stand that is to your liking instead of trying to make the Ducati lift work on a bike it's not designed for
Or just do what the rest of us have done and use a regular pad lift rear stand or drill and bolt on some spools to your swing arm
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Jimustanguitar
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2013 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not at all. I have no intention of using this lift for tire changes.

I want a stand for oil changes and general maintenance, and the single sided option seems more convenient and safer to use.

When it's tire time I've got not qualms with hoisting the bike off the ground with ratchet straps : )
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Jdugger
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2013 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jack stands under the pegs works well for a lot of jobs.
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2013 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude, if you're so worried about it, just pull your paddles out of your stand, and run a two or three foot long 1/2 inch steel bar through the paddle mount holes and the rear axle. Viola, same diff.
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