| Author | Message | ||
     Torquehd |
I wonder if that sub frame would fit my 1125? You're not the only one wondering. Lord willing, I intend to make a similar setup for my 1125 when I have the bike torn apart this winter. I have the ability to cast aluminum, but honestly it would be heavier than welding flat-stock (but stronger). At least my first couple of project sections were thick and somewhat heavy when I started playing with this idea this last winter. Lighter still would be an all-carbon-fiber tail section... | ||
| Hughlysses |
If you had access to a CNC mill (or with a conventional mill and a LOT of patience), those side sections could be milled out of plate. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I realize the 185 is crank, not rear wheel. I also suspect EBR is much less full of %^%$ than Suzuki when quoting Crank HP. And I stand by my suspicion that an 1190 RX will be making as much horsepower at 3000 RPM as a GSXR-600 is making at 7000. Which is not to say the GSXR is crap or the EBR is magic... it is just to say the EBR will be stupidly and insanely fun. That was the only point I was making... | ||
| Sprintst |
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/blog/2013/10/ erik-buell-racing-unveils-street-bike.html EBR was building about 35 motorcycles per month during the summer, but expected to ramp up to more than 100 per month by the end of the year, Buell told The Business Journal in July, after the Hero announcement. He said staff could grow from about 75 to more than 100 by 2014. | ||
| Jdugger |
> I wonder if that sub frame would fit my 1125? It fits up, but it leaves a gap. I had a picture of it from a drag racer who did that do his stretched 1125r. It wasn't a perfect cosmetic fit up. You also have to do something about the undertail, and the stock wiring harness for the 1125r won't permit you relocating the rectifier easily, etc. It's a project. | ||
| Jimustanguitar |
I dig the LED headlights. Maybe not the shape, but the sleekness. | ||
| Sprintst |
http://ebrforum.com/showthread.php?69-Article-Live -Images-and-Info-from-1190RX-Debut-at-AIM-Expo | ||
| Torquehd |
huh. didn't know there was an EBR forum. | ||
| Hughlysses |
^ Forum belongs to AF1 Racing, an EBR (and other makes) dealer out of New Braunfels, Texas. | ||
| Methyman |
Black EBR 1190RX  | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Actually that can wouldnt look bad after you whack 10 inches off of it. It really doesnt look to far off from the Akro long. (Message edited by figorvonbuellingham on October 16, 2013) | ||
| Hughlysses |
AF1 Racing posted a really interesting slide showing the muffler internals. I'll be interested to hear more about it: | ||
| Hughlysses |
More photos just posted at the EBR forum: http://ebrforum.com/showthread.php?69-Article-Live -Images-and-Info-from-1190RX-Debut-at-AIM-Expo/pag e2 Here's a good one of the sub-frame, for those of you wondering if you can put one on your 1125: | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
The real parts to swap will be the rear wheel (assuming that the chain drive conversion we can get on the 1125 is what is on the RX) and the entire front end, brakes wheel and all. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Yeh that is an interesting exhaust. I wonder if they are trying to manipulate frequencies for back pressure to build low and midrange power. | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
Looks like Nissin daytona radial master cylinders. | ||
| Sir_wadsalot |
@cherrybomb- wrong: On October 15, 2009, Harley Davidson Inc. announced the end of production of Buell Motorcycles to focus more on the Harley Davidson brand.... source: wikipedia Really? You're gonna nitpick one calender day? OK, he announced it internally on the 15th. The 16th was his first day on his own, WTH ever. Figure in leap year.... At D_Adams- That was a direct reference to you, yes. You and Drummer, and most of the 1125 exhausts. I realise that came off as dismissive, but what I meant was that I (and the average, casual rider) can't afford your exclusivity and attention to detail. I know you make full systems and everythng, I just can't afford it! I actually went into sportbikez.net and told everyone how cool it was that you had developed your own exhaust, and how awesome it is. My point was to the guy complaining about the side can, it would be good for the brand to have more mainstream aftermarket support. When the average guy looks into it, and sees if he buys an 1125 R, that he can only source custom made exhaust systems from three manufacturers, and oh, by the way it takes a whole weekend to adjust the valves because you have to drop the motor or disassemble the bike, people don't like that level of commitment. It pushes them right into a squixxer dealership. When people can go to the Yoshimura/Akro...whatever site and see that they can get whatever sexy slipon they want for 3 or 4 hundred dollars and a tinted windscreen, like EVERY OTHER BIKE ON THE MARKET, it will help mainstream the brand. EBR will never succeed just selling to "us". The hardcores, the tech-o-philes, the trackday junkies and the insiders will always go to people like you for the higher end stuff, because it is purpose built and it is fantastic. No offense was intended, and someday, when I can save my pennies, I hope to have one of your systems on my own bike. My default setting is caustic wit and sarcasm, I didn't mean for the overspray to get on you.  As far as the bike not being up to spec with current exotics, it's the exact same horsepower numbers as the new 1390 Superduke (my KTM dealerguy, remember?) and the same torque spec as the Panigale R. So what it's 15hp down? It's also ten thousand dollars cheaper. At 19K it's right in line price wise with the current crop of exotic superbikes, and the weight is right there too. If it's lacking anywhere, it's suspension. Most of the megabuck exotics are rocking Ohlins and electronically adjustable boingers. Just the "O" word on the forks would add like 8 grand to the price. To make up for extra costs of small scale production, they went to the lower tier BPF, which is still great stuff. It's an understandable compromise. I would rather have the monster motor, if I had to choose. | ||
| Cherry_bomb |
"by the way it takes a whole weekend to adjust the valves because you have to drop the motor or disassemble the bike" ? for changing an exhaust system? alright... | ||
| Cherry_bomb |
after all, i like the bike (rx) and the fact, that it has a tc. but first i wanna see longterm test-reports and how reliable the engine is. i've heard, they had many problems with the rs. and then, there will be the fact, that this bike will cost around €19000 (which is $26000) in europe estimated as it was always with the imports from the us. for that money, there are tested design from aprilia (factory mille), ducati and bmw with all that stuff working. (Message edited by cherry_bomb on October 17, 2013) | ||
| Clk92vette |
I really think EBR did a fantastic job with this. As I have been searching for my 1125R replacement over the last few weeks I have looked at a lot of different stuff with a very open mind and considered everything on the market. The only bike that really appealed to me outside of another 1125R is the Aprilia Tuono. But now that the RX has been unveiled I am feeling that same sort of lust I had when the 1125R was unveiled. Now if I can only convince my wife that I need to upgrade? Oh yeah...first I better convince her that I need to keep riding. | ||
| Hughlysses |
I noticed a couple of interesting things in the detail shots posted yesterday (this one is from ebrforum.com). The first pic gives a good view of the radiators and front header pipe on the RX, both changed from the 1190RS. The RX radiators are vertical flow versus the cross-flow units on the RS. Apparently the RS radiators were VERY expensive as they had to be hand-fabricated. The other thing of interest is the fabricated "oval" front exhaust pipe on the RX, versus 2 separate pipes on the RS. 2nd pic shows an RS for comparison. Very interesting.... RX:  RS:  | ||
| Torquehd |
the tail section is a gorgeous piece of cast... magnesium probably? That front exhaust pipe is great too. it looks like engineered horsepower. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
There is supposed to be a dealer in indy. Closest one to me. I'm going to see if he has any yet. I might be going there this weekend. | ||
| Hughlysses |
the tail section is a gorgeous piece of cast... magnesium probably? According to video below, cast magnesium, weight just over 2 lbs. (Lots of good info in the video.) | ||
| Craigg |
Wow...more HP and torque then my BMW S1000rr and its 21lbs lighter. That will be interesting. (Message edited by figorvonbuellingham. on October 16, 2013) Its actually 8 Hp less then the BMW S100RR and $4K more. Make: BMW Model: S1000RR Price: $15050 Engine: Water/oil-cooled 4-cylinder 4-stroke in-line engine, four titanium valves per cylinder, two overhead camshafts Transmission: Constant-mesh 6-speed gearbox, straight-toothed Horsepower @ RPM: 193 @ 13000 MPG(Cty): 41 MPG(Hwy): 41 Torque @ RPM: 83 @ 9750 Energy: Premium unleaded Displacement: 999 cc With all that being said. We need to see road tests and ease of use to work on the bike. Also who will support the bike if it needs work. For the most part I do all my own work now. When it was under warranty I had the dealer work on it. The valve adjustments wasn't the most fun to check on this bike. Not to mention the Spark plugs. Even though it is a bit easier with the video that was posted still a pain to change. } | ||
| Court |
>>>>i've heard, they had many problems with the rs. I do not believe you. I think you are lying and making that up but I am wide open to have my mind changed. Please cite your sources and the specific failures. I am looking at the first year that the 1190RS was raced and noting, with some glee, that it consistently placed in the top 10, in front of BMW and KTM, in nearly every race of the season. I await your answers. I'm eager to read these sources. | ||
| Cherry_bomb |
yes, i'm lying...how pathetic you are... the owner of the pegasus race-team has an rs and he had more than once problems with cylinderhead-seals (water all over) and other things i cannot specify by myself. but lots of uncertainties of all kind all the time since he has the bike... must i be more specific for you or is this enough? as for the rx, time (and tests) will tell... | ||
| Sprintst |
10 MORE horsepower than the RS, per EBR's site 1190RX - Peak Horsepower 185 hp @ 10,600 rpm 1190RX - Peak Horsepower 175 hp @ 9750 rpm | ||
| Jdugger |
Racing breaks shit. Fact of life. Eslick, May and Dominguez all made a habit out of popping motors (for various reasons, including rider habits) at one point or another. Rob here dropped a valve at an AMA event. Twins are pretty disadvantaged racing against I4s. You bump the compression ridiculous amounts, you tweak this and that, reliability goes down. I'll bet in street trim it's a totally reliable tank. The 1125 sure was. I don't think I *EVER* had a motor issue, even once I started racing, other than wearing one motor out, and having the main crank bearings fail on one that had been built to 150+HP! | ||
| Court |
I may be pathetic. That will be, in large part, determined by your facts when you produce them. I'm waiting. |
