| Author | Message | ||
     Deanh8 |
Some pics from my recent 1190 Build. I was looking for tear down threads before I tore mine down and there were not many. Im sure the pictures will help someone someday. Also some just to show inner workings of the engine for those who have not seen inside before. Going to race her in a few days, get some seat time at wends night drags and then Competition in sac next weekend. Tomorrow will be first startup, cant wait to see how it runs. She made 122whp (EBR ECM, Barker, K&N) the day I took it apart, I will post results/vids soon.                      (Message edited by deanh8 on September 28, 2013) | ||
| Georgehitch17 |
Was the 122 rwhp on a dynojet dyno? | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
What ecm do you use with the 1190 kit? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Very cool project. Dean- is that color a result of running race gas? | ||
| Jossi |
Great post , very interesting | ||
| Torquehd |
Can you tell us where you got your parts? Is this an 1190 kit? I looked into it a couple years ago and I couldn't find any conversion kits on the market. Thanks for posting, keep us informed! good luck! | ||
| Deanh8 |
Erikbuellracing.com for the big bore. It's a kit from them | ||
| Deanh8 |
I didnt run race gas to much, not sure why the pistons are orange like that. Im looking for a base map now, I bought the EBR ECM and thought it would come with one but it didnt. | ||
| Torquehd |
I just looked at the kit on ebr.com, it's disappointing that they advertise, "Power is 8-11 RWHP increase across the whole usable RPM range..." for that kind of money and effort, i would hope for a lot more than 11 hp. I hope that's based on an already heavily modified 1125, and that your results show us that the average 1125 can expect to gain a lot more. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Remember it's only a 65 cc increase, which is about 4 cubic inches. Getting ~8-11 RWHP is pretty decent. OTOH that is a lot of money to spend for a relatively small increase. | ||
| Andros |
Cant wait to hear how it performs and what number it'll make. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Actually if you think about it its about the same as buying a $1500 to $1900 exhaust system for the same or less power increase. The right cams and maps and maybe even a bigger increase. (Message edited by figorvonbuellingham on September 28, 2013) | ||
| Deanh8 |
you guys are missing the point. "Power is 8-11 RWHP increase across the whole usable RPM range" read "across the whole useable RPM range. That means atleast 8-11hp at 3,000 rpm, 5,000 rpm, 8000, rpm, 10,000 rpm. PEAK power is a different story. Based on what other guys have made with this same kit it looks like around 30 whp peak gain with this kit. Ill find out soon. I started it this morning, sounds awesome. | ||
| Jaredc01 |
Video or it didn't happen! | ||
| Northernthunder |
Lot of different vehicles in the background, they all yours? | ||
| Deanh8 |
Ran it hard today bike is insane. Almost unridable with stock suspension. Power wheelies in 4th leads to lots of high speed head shake. Tire is impossible to keep down | ||
| Torquehd |
Damn. those must be 11 very BIG horses. thanks for the post, you should put up a vid when you get a chance. i'd like to hear the thing run. i'm coming up on the 12k service interval, going to have to drop the motor anyway.... damn i picked a bad time to think about getting married and buying a house... are you planning on having it dyno'ed again? i'd love to see the dyno chart. (Message edited by torquehd on September 30, 2013) (Message edited by torquehd on September 30, 2013) | ||
| 99buellx1 |
When thinking of the "moderate" gains from the kit itself, you also have to take into account that this kit is generally intended for someone racing the machine, and in most instances while in there a compression bump is common. When all the parts (1190 kit, compression, exhaust, ECM map, fuel) all align, the increases can be substantial. | ||
| Torquehd |
i was thinking about that, i wonder if the comp ratio is raised or if the piston dome allows for a lower comp ratio than the 1190. | ||
| Deanh8 |
Compression is defiantly higher. They also offer different piston choices. I also went with a thinner base gasket as recommended by EBR for pump gas | ||
| Torquehd |
Defiantly higher? Like, it's so high it defies the laws of physics? | ||
| Jdugger |
> Ran it hard today bike is insane. Almost unridable with stock suspension. > Power wheelies in 4th leads to lots of high speed head shake. > Tire is impossible to keep down Are you on the stock belt drive and wheelbase? I cannot imagine that motor with a stock wheelbase. It was nuts with my high-compression 1125cc motor... | ||
| Wymaen |
LOL @ Torquehd  | ||
| D_adams |
Compression ratio is probably somewhere just south of 13:1 I think. Any higher and you will need to start running better (ie; more expensive) fuel. | ||
| Deanh8 |
Phones spell check is stupid sometimes haha I'll have it on the dyno today | ||
| Torquehd |
oh no, i wanted it to be defiantly high! that would make it defiantly fast! it operates in defiance of the laws of man! can't wait to see that dyno chart! | ||
| Hughlysses |
I'd say 13 to 1 is pretty defiant. "91 octane pump gas? HA! I fart in your general direction!"  | ||
| Deanh8 |
Just got it off the dyno. Here are the charts. Taking it to the track tomorrow, I will post results. Horsepower: 149whp Blue- 1190cc, EBR Exhaust, EBR ECM 120whp Green- 1125cc, Barker Exhaust, EBR ECM  Torque: 86ftlbs Blue- 1190cc, EBR Exhaust, EBR ECM 64ftlbs Green- 1125cc, Barker Exhaust, EBR ECM  | ||
| Torquehd |
nice! that's a huge jump in power and torque! and a really nice curve. is it running a little lean? man... i'm going to have to figure out how to make the purchase without my fiance catching on... | ||
| Torquehd |
did you talk to the factory about exhaust options? i also have the barker and I was thinking about running that if/when I get the kit. Does the kit include a top end gasket kit? did you measure the pistons and cylinders |
