| Author | Message | ||
     Ace117 |
Good afternoon every one. So i got a ticket on my way to work this morning for having a blue windscreen on my 09 arctic white Xb12r. I told the chp officer that my bike came stock with a blue wind screen but he called me a liar and insisted it was aftermarket. It was pointless to argue so i took my ticket and went on my way. I came across a post a while back about some one having a similar problem. Does any one know where i can get written proof the Buell's came stock with red, blue and amber windscreens? I intend to fight this as far a i can take it. I thank you all in advance for any help you can give me. | ||
| 1125rcya |
I would talk with Harley Davidson customer care. 414-343-4056 or 1-800-258-2464 | ||
| Clutchreaper |
Tell the A-hole to google 'arctic white Buell XB12R.' Request a time to meet with him and have him look up some info on his computer at his HQ and he should drop it. Maybe if you can get the stock part number and description too. | ||
| Sprintst |
Lol I'd love to go to court and have them explain to me why I need to see through my screen. "Sorry, I have too much belly to get that low your honor" | ||
| Sparky |
I believe the stock blue windscreen has a DOT approved number embedded on it - but only the stock windscreen; an aftermarket one will not have that on it. That makes it 50 states street legal and it's your defense! Check it out. | ||
| Coastrambler |
WTF? He must have been really pissed about something. I've had an opaque Zero Gravity windscreen for 4 years now on my '09. Never had of a problem. Even when I got my Go Fast Certificate. Had one CHP officer compliment the bike, and he was on duty. | ||
| Mcelhaney14 |
I believe the stock windscreens say buell on them. Talk to Al at American Sport Bike. I know he is familiar with this problem. | ||
| Jdugger |
Another law enforcement officer spending our tax dollars so wisely! | ||
| Boohoo |
more likely he needs to fill the coffers because they already spent the tax money. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
id think you could find the old literature from buell that shows it as a stock configuration as proof wild way to get a ticket whats wrong with blue screen exactly? | ||
| Jdugger |
> whats wrong with blue screen exactly? Felony impersonation of an officer. As outrageously trumped-up as that is, I've certainly heard of more than one cop accusing individuals of committing this "crime" for having blue lights (think the "runner" under lights) or blue windscreens on their bike. | ||
| Jdugger |
Ace, Your case should be relatively trivial to get dismissed in court. You are clearly not violating any law. If California courts work like Texas, you will be given an opportunity to state your case. You will show how the bike is in stock configuration as offered by the manufacturer. The judge will probably agree, and dismiss the ticket with $100 or so in court costs. | ||
| Alter1 |
You'll have to jump through your ass to prove your innocence; lose money via missing work, court costs, etc. all for something that should not have been ticketed for in the first place. We/You have to pay for over-zealous police officers' mistakes, not them. | ||
| Dannybuell |
Jdugger - Interesting point. My first Helmet was a medium bright blue shoei. after a while I kept getting the impression that cars were slowing down in front of me. I bought a black helmet and the problem all but went away. My summer mesh jacket has a blue stripe across the chest, it does it too! Happened yesterday! my conclusion is that people freak out when they see blue. | ||
| Jdugger |
> my conclusion is that people freak out when they see blue Can you blame them? There are no good interactions with the police, only not-bad ones. The best possible outcome from interacting with the police is "nothing". As my defense attorney friend told me: Do your very best to follow all laws (there are too many for any one person to know not to be breaking at least some of them all of the time), and stay away from the police as much as possible. | ||
| Crowley |
My kit car had small aero screens with no wipers on them. In the UK windscreen wipers are required for the annual roadworthiness test. The tester told me that the screens were not windscreens, but wind deflectors and therefore not part of the test. Surely the screen on a bike is a wind deflector rather than a screen? | ||
| Natc |
It's always easier to go in and talk to the clerk in the state's attorney's office first... Much like an insurance ticket or other silly things they may take one look at it, tear it up, and send you on your way. | ||
| Hughlysses |
If you could find a copy of the 09 sales brochure (I think it was only on CD) and print a color copy of the illustration of your bike, that should help your case. | ||
| Two_seasons |
I'm with Jdugger. Simply idiotic to issue a ticket. There are so many better places for the police to invest OUR resources! Whenever you see a $25,000 police car sitting with radar, an officer just sitting there WAITING, doesn't it make you mad that they WASTE our money like that? Whom works for whom? | ||
| Clutchreaper |
Seasons, I kinda get what you're saying, but if all possibilities were that a LEO was not sitting there I think a lot of effing retarded drivers would drive dangerously and turn this country into something out of Russia or Italy. The cop was an over zealous mofo in this case. (Message edited by clutchreaper on June 07, 2013) | ||
| Yugi |
What's the CVC he wrote on the ticket? | ||
| Ratbuell |
The OP may have better luck with resources posting this on the XB forum...good chance more XB owners might have factory lit laying around for XBs... | ||
| Al_lighton |
Cali Motor vehicle code V C Section 26701-D (d) No person shall sell, offer for sale, or operate any motor vehicle equipped with red, blue, or amber translucent aftermarket material in any partitions, windows, windshields, or wind deflectors. The key word here is AFTERMARKET....the OEM blue windscreen is not aftermarket. If I had one of the Buell bikes with a red, amber, or blue windscreen, I'd keep a printed copy of this section of the vehicle code with my insurance card and registration on the bike. But I've known folks that have done essentially that and STILL got the ticket. It's a bit of a pain in the ass, but you take your ticket, you request trial by written declaration, you send in the document with the pictures of the STOCK Buell bikes, and explain that the windscreen is NOT aftermarket and the ticket and fines will be dismissed. Al | ||
| Yugi |
If there is a blue OEM screen, you should buy it and bring it to the court. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Why would he need to buy it? He has an OEM blue screen on his bike currently....that he got the ticket for. ??? | ||
| Ljm |
this guy has one for sale up here. Might check with him, re: documentation but he also has a pic of it: http://anchorage.craigslist.org/mcy/3858526351.htm l | ||
| Dannybuell |
show them the cover of the owners manual | ||
| Yugi |
I'd better show them the parts manual then. 09 parts manual shows hero blue windscreen, part number M0600.1AMAMBX | ||
| Pnw_uly |
Bring your 2009 Owner's Manual when you defend yourself in court - - on the cover of the manual is an Arctic White 1125R with a blue windscreen. . . Good luck. | ||
| Devondunit |
Further proof that the traffic enforcement system is 98% a revenue collection for our nations money wasters! I am not anti-society but anti-waste of money. At least if they where using all the money they get from trumped up BS tickets, parking tickets, BS SPEEDING TICKETS, and so on to better our society then I could swallow it but..... NOPE. I had a deer dart in front of me last fall, I hit the ditch and laid my bike down, no serious damage to bike other than plastics, but broke my clavicle into three pieces. I called the state police to get a ride because I didn't want to pay for an ambulance (stupid on my part, their not a taxi service) and the D-bag stopped long enough to write me a failure to control ticket and radio me am ambulance and then promptly LEFT ME ALONE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO WAIT IN THE DARK. Not that I wanted to sit and wait with a state dick but.... MY INSURANCE ON MY BIKE WENT UP 40% BECAUSE OF THAT TICKET!!!! Maybe I listen to Adam Carollas podcast too much..... | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Off subject.....my truck broke down 1 am in middle of Jan. -20 windchills. I'm walking. State jackoff drives by me three times on my five mile trek. Just slowed down and looked at me as I was waving. Never Did stop. It takes a certain mentality to be a cop. I think they call it psychotic. | ||
| 1125rcya |
A cops duty is not to help or protect, but when laws are broken they are there to send you to a judge to be punished. Some cops really care about people and are willing to go above and beyond the call of duty as others do the bear minimum because they are aware that the more you interact the bigger possibility of an fatal attraction. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Silly me, I thought they were here to protect and serve. | ||
| Buellrider66 |
Here is a copy of the owners manual. Hmm, looks stock to me.  |
