| Author | Message | ||
     Mortbike |
I have a 2009 1125 CR with a 2010 warranty engine. I have both the 2009 and 2010 service manuals and the 2009 parts and electrical diagnostics manuals. Do I need to get the 2010 parts and electrical manuals as well. What are the differences between the two engines other than the clutch side cover and oil level sight glass? Thanks, Mort | ||
| Two_seasons |
Mort, I think the rotor nut is torqued to 300 ft/lbs. and you have a different cam chain guide. Other than that, what you said. If it's just the engine, I would think you could get the cam chain guide part # and add that to your manual. Electrical should be the same. | ||
| Sportster_mann |
Remember that a 2010 motor takes more oil ... | ||
| Sprintst |
oil site window I believe | ||
| Chessm |
is the stator the same? ( i forget) | ||
| Two_seasons |
The stator was changed in 2009. I believe the stator in the 2010 model year was the same as the 2009 model year. One significant difference is there is an oil port in the 2010 for added cooling. That wasn't in the 2009 model year. The output is the same between the model years. (Message edited by two_seasons on April 28, 2013) | ||
| Mortbike |
Two seasons- where in the engine is the added oil port you are referring to? It was not in the flywheel/rotor as I just upgraded that to the EBR modified version and the stock 2010 rotor did not have the oil port. thanks, Mort | ||
| Two_seasons |
Ah, maybe I was thinking the EBR and relaying my post as stock 2010. Sorry for the confusion I caused. EBR definitely has the oil port. | ||
| Two_seasons |
As I'm sure you know, there is more heat generated by the stock stator on the 2009/2010 model years than the 2008 model year. Buell Motorcycle Company decided to up the output so owners could add heated grips, heated personal wear, GPS mounts, etc. That is when the issues started for the 2009 and 2010 1125r's and cr's. I think Erik and the elves has figured out a good fix for the stator, but the modified harness remains. And, if memory serves, that harness shuts down one leg of the stator when over a certain rpm. I believe all three legs are in play during idle to xxxx rpm. Some here believe that the stock voltage regulator is not doing it's job. I'm not sure anyone here has come up with the "perfect" solution for the issue. However, very good discussions are had in the stator/rotor thread within the Badweb 1125 forum. You may want to get into those threads to learn more. | ||
| Kevmean |
I thought the oil capacity was the same and just the method of checking level had changed ? | ||
| Zac4mac |
2010 1125s take an additional .2Qt or something. 2 seasons - the hole in the rotor was never on a Buell, EBR came out with it a couple of years after The Shut-down. There was a Buell/H-D recall to install an oil jet on the crank or someplace. Loretta needed/got it. Zack | ||
| Cataract2 |
There was a Buell/H-D recall to install an oil jet on the crank or someplace. Loretta needed/got it. Zac, I remember that recall. It was for the 5th gear to give it more lubricant. It was for the 2008. My bike got it done. | ||
| Two_seasons |
Can I still get that done as a recall at Hal's? | ||
| Ratbuell |
HARLEY decided to up the output to quiet the 08 owners dead-battery complaints. I want to say the Elves advised against it but i could be wrong. Unfortunately that increase created the heat issues...and prompted the update harness (which turns one leg off at LOW rpm - there are other factors in the algorithm - to help combat heat when less oil is circulating). EBR came up with the oil jet answer after the shutdown, I believe in collaboration with rotax. | ||
| Sportster_mann |
Zak4mac said
According to my manual it's .6 US quart,that's more than a pint, so not an insignificant amount ... (Message edited by sportster_mann on April 29, 2013) | ||
| Zac4mac |
Didn't think it was that much. Very civilized volume, a pint. | ||
| Sportster_mann |
Yes, it does sound a lot, if it is only extra capacity for the oil site glass. keep meaning to check the parts manuals to see what differs to work out if there is more oil held elsewhere ... | ||
| Mortbike |
That is an interesting point about an extra pint of oil, Sprtster_mann. Almost makes you think that prior year versions should be filled with more oil as well unless there is another engine part besides just the small sight glass that was changed to carry the extra capacity?? Mort | ||
| Jdugger |
If you drop the screen each oil change, just put in slightly less than 3qt and don't worry about it. If not dropping the screen, somewhere around 2.7. I'm not a bit oil check / sight glass kind of guy. I prefer to know how much oil to put in the damn thing and do that. And, if there's any question, just change the oil. | ||
| Zac4mac |
The 2010 motor got a new right-side case to fit the sight-glass. That new case should account for the difference, not just the sight-glass. I'm with Jim on this, I have an 08 - dump all the oil, add new filter, check screen, button up and add 3 qts. Ride & repeat. Z |
