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Drm1125r
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That I have almost 14,000 miles on my 08 1125r and have yet to do the 12,000 mile service?

Should I stop riding till the shop can get it in or keep riding?
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Cutty72
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was at almost 16k when I did mine. Didn't want to leave it go during the riding season.
Really, you should have done it over winter, or now before you get deep into the riding season, but it's your choice.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave I just changed the plugs and it was a snap not hard at all and I am gonna pass on the valve thing I don't hear any valve slap at all so I am ok with it. I change my brake pads every year and change the oil anyway and I put a new battery in this year. So it's up to you if your happy with it ride it!!!!
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Sparky
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As long as it runs OK, especially at lower rpms, I'd ride it until I could schedule (afford?) the service.

Be aware, it's not valve slap which would tend to be loose valve lash you have to worry about, but rather the opposite, valve recession, which is valve lash closing up that can be destructive. Remember, a loose valve is a happy valve.

FWIW, most of the valves on mine were on the tight end of tolerance with one at the low limit after checking for the first time at 18k.
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D_adams
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I am gonna pass on the valve thing I don't hear any valve slap at all so I am ok with it.




And that's because they're probably all tight and not making any noise. Once you have burned a couple of valves due to them staying open and having not adjusted them, take pics. It's been a while since I'd seen any and can't find the ones I used to have laying around to show to customers as to _why_ you want to check the valves.
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B2tomtom
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to agree with Sparky and D_adams on this. When I did my valves on mine at 12,500 I had to adjust all 8 valves and they were all on the tight side. When my brother did his at 36,000 he ended up adjusting most of them also. Its not something I would pass up on.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will add my name to the last 2 posts.
I did mine at 12.5k and all were tight but in spec.
At 25k, I had to change 6 shims.

Bottom line is, it's not a good idea to miss a valve check unless you know where you stand.
I put all mine to the loose side of spec and will check again at 40 or 50k as they go tight as they wear.

Z
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Xodot
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe you guys can help me out. My local dealer is shy about doing this work - they have never done such servicing and are kind enough to warn me.

Is there a chance you know of a shop you would recommend close to Buffalo or Detroit (my border crossing points) that I could trailer to?
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Jdugger
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The job isn't hard to do yourself, honestly. Time consuming, but not hard.

I DO recommend doing it early. After just a season (25 hours of motor time or so) my valves were all 10-12 thousandths tight on a new motor.
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B2tomtom
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did my own. I bought the shim kit and did the engine rotation. It didn't require any specialty tools and I had it done in a day taking my time.
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Mmcustoms
Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where can I buy the shim kit mine is going to need it soon
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys I get it but like I said I am ok with it thats all. I ride semi hard at times not vicious I have plenty of power the plugs were perfect kinda tells me all is well. I'll wait till 20K before I do it I think I'll be fine. If not my bad.
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Drm1125r
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all the help. I'm going to see how soon they can get it in and done and just keep riding till then.
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Riding hard or not, tight valves are bad news.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's far better to do the first check early than late.
Once you know your valves are good, you can postpone the next check a little...

Z
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B2tomtom
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Mmcustoms there are a number of places that carry it online. The kit I got is by hot cams. Its 10 mm valve shims and carries 3 of each shim size.
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Mmcustoms
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you very much
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Cutty72
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xodot. If you are mechanically inclined, I would recommend doing it yourself.
If not, I can't help you with a shop. There is a guy on another forum I'm on that lives in Detroit that loves wrenching in his garage, he may be able to help you out...
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As others have said. It's not a hard job.

Service Manual + Tools needed(little know how) = fairly easy job.
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Cutty72
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And some free time Cataract...
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Dennis_c
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4 of mine were tight at 12,000 if you don't want to buy a kit v rod shims fit if a HD dealer is close.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would get them checked as soon as possible. That said, when both my 08 and 09 were checked around 12k miles, both bikes were well within spec. I didn't ride them much last year, I should be getting the 24k check done sometime this summer.
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Yugi
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2013 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Checked at 14k, 7 were out of spec or close. Replaced all of them. BTW, H-D shims are better then the Hot Cams kit, because H-D shims come in 0.025 mm intervals, while hot cams come in 0.05 mm intervals. Each H-D shim is around $3.
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Chameleon
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 03:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not that I recommend this, but I had my first valve check done at 13,204 miles (all were in spec) and my second done at 62,889 miles (2 out of spec shims replaced).
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Drm1125r
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm having it all done finally but it's starting to turn into an ordeal.
The bike has been in the shop since the 17th and first they said the valves were not part of the service then after arguing with them they pull out the book and say "oh I guess it is, sorry".
They called last week saying they just got the shims in and by the way I have a leaking tranny seal and my CEL/LFL is due to a bad fuel pump.

So my 12k service that should run $450 has SO FAR turned into about $1,000. And they tell me it MIGHT be ready sometime this week.
Not happy. Missing my bike. If its not done by ADKII heads will roll.
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2013 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is why I do it myself... Good luck with all of that man. BTW, how did they not have shims? The shims are the same as the VROD.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2013 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they are lying to him, they don't have a mechanic to do the work yet.
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Sprintst
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2013 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm doing mine now, since I had to do the clutch case gasket anyway.

It's a lot to do, but pretty straight forward. If you are mechanically adept, it's not a bad job

Mine were all in spec, but the front cylinders were mostly right at the edge, so I got the Hot Cams kit and redid them

I would recommend just getting the kit. I did the calcs, and put in the resulting shims, but didn't get the results I was supposed to. Not sure why, but just adjusted the shim size, since I could.

It's great to have them all right there, ready to go
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