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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Monday, December 31, 2012 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjp1AYXZw5Q
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sweet "...he has passing opportunities the others don't have."

EBR's wheel-brake assembly is 1/3 lighter than competition, wow!
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Albert666
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2013 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

shame they got the name wrong on the opening credits
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Avalaugh
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2013 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wasn't there a very very similar video knocking about ages ago like this, before the 1190rs was out, would be intersting to see how much lighter the 1190's wheel etc was compared to the 1125rr's ?
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Over the years, there's been various bits of leap-frogging with the Buell front end vs. the mainstream.

In 2002/2003 when the ZTL first came out, a lot of weight was saved vs. the competing models of the day, mostly on the wheel.

Over the years, and certainly by 2007/2008, improvements in casting technology and wheel design by the Japanese had largely eliminated the Buell's front end advantage, and had definitely eliminated any rear wheel advantage. With my 2007 Honda set-up vs. my 2008 1125r set up the fronts are about the same, and the rears are several pounds different in favor of the Honda.

The ZTL2 didn't help -- that thing is a brick -- but as the bikes got faster (1125r vs. XB), the bikes really needed more brake. And, as we all know, in racing the front brake has been a real liability until fairly recently when improvements in rotor, mounting, pads and caliper have made tremendous upgrades to the system.

With the 1190, EBR found a lot more weight in the front wheel, putting themselves ahead again. The claim is around 5 lbs, and comparing their Mg wheel to a modern forged Al, I suspect that's accurate. EBR was able to find lbs in both wheel design, and in manufacturing process. So, I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing the Japanese and Europeans to start chipping away at the design over time, and eventually reaching somewhere near parity only to have EBR leapfrog again...

Short and long: The Buell wheels are an early 2000-era design, and ten years later, yes, they are a touch long in the tooth. The manufacturing process for them is also not very modern, another reason for their weight.
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Dustinz
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JDugger, you're killing my buzz.
I believe you need another swig of the Buell Kool-Aid!
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2013 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let me ride your new 1190 and I'll be nice.

Glug Glug
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Imblasted
Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1
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